2K17: Closer and Bullpen

[Judge Jude]

Chacon was an All-Star in 2003, 11-8 with a 4.60 ERA in 23 starts

he was 2-16 for the Rockies in 2004-05 until being dealt in mid-2005 to the Yankees, where he went 7-3 as a starter with a 2.85 ERA because why wouldn't he

Chacon went 5-3 with a 7.00 ERA in 2006 before the Yankees tricked the Pirates into acquiring him

[Pauly]

Britton to the DL with forearm tightness. Brach steps in I assume

[revo]

Jose Mesa had 24 saves in 2003 with a 6.52 ERA and 1.76 WHIP.

Antonio Alfonseca actually led the majors in saves with 45 in 2000, but also had a 4.24 ERA and 1.52 WHIP.

Derrick Turnbow had 24 saves in 2006 with a 6.87 ERA and 1.69 WHIP. Heck, he even made the All-Star team that year!

[swampdragon]

wow - Dyson is bad right now

I got three cheap reliever wins today but this collection of walks - turning into a blown save - turning into a loss is BRUTAL

[Sharky]

Jose Mesa had 24 saves in 2003 with a 6.52 ERA and 1.76 WHIP.

Antonio Alfonseca actually led the majors in saves with 45 in 2000, but also had a 4.24 ERA and 1.52 WHIP.

Derrick Turnbow had 24 saves in 2006 with a 6.87 ERA and 1.69 WHIP. Heck, he even made the All-Star team that year!

Some great flashback names there, revo. Owned all of them at one time or another. "Joe Table" was maddening. Have to admit I love that joke about Alfonseca being twice the man Mordecai Brown was (6 fingers vs. 3).

[fuhrdog]

wow - Dyson is bad right now

So is the manager that keeps running him out there in save situations.

[Hornsby]

So is the manager that keeps running him out there in save situations.

I think that's pretty well over now...Bush pitched today and had 3 k's in his inning pitched, 11 pitches. I'm guessing that Bush owners are going to be pretty happy...

[Judge Jude]

Have to admit I love that joke about Alfonseca being twice the man Mordecai Brown was (6 fingers vs. 3).

I scored it as 12 vs. 8

[Moonlight J]

Bush's shoulder troubles are behind him. I saw him hit 97-98 with his fastballs yesterday.

Dyson blew that save yet a ball never left the infield. Infield hit, blown sac bunt coverage, IBB, FC, and then another infield single. Crazy

[Ken]

Bush's shoulder troubles are behind him. I saw him hit 97-98 with his fastballs yesterday.

Agree, although I've heard they are going to monitor his usage carefully going forward.

[revo]

Is there anything to worry about with Benoit? He blew the save in spectacular fashion yesterday, but I think maybe they give him a pass on this one since it was Bryce Harper. But how many more passes does he have?

[harmon]

Saves speculating.... Kelley or Knebl for rest of season?

[Sour Masher]

Saves speculating.... Kelley or Knebl for rest of season?

I like Knebel. It might take awhile, but I think he is saving games, one way or the other, by the trade deadline.

[The Dane]

Saves speculating.... Kelley or Knebl for rest of season?

Good question.

I, too, would probably go with Knebel, but if both Feliz and Treinen stay in the roles, I could see Kelley sneaking in more here and there (better team, more fluid roles in pen). So, I'd say that Kelley is the surer bet to get 10 saves, but Knebel is probably the better play to get 20 or more, if that makes any damn sense.

[harmon]

Good question.

I, too, would probably go with Knebel, but if both Feliz and Treinen stay in the roles, I could see Kelley sneaking in more here and there (better team, more fluid roles in pen). So, I'd say that Kelley is the surer bet to get 10 saves, but Knebel is probably the better play to get 20 or more, if that makes any damn sense.

lol...ya, I hear you. Floor/ceiling thing.