Obama reelection 2012

[onejayhawk]

cool, i'll send away for a new sharpie.

The Dollar stone pens are inkier, though they get wushy fast.

J

[Lucky]

Take a deep breath. Relax.
President Obama is going to win--too many swing states with demographics that favor him. Economies are better than average in those states too.
I don't like Romney and I wouldn't vote for him but some of the attacks are a bit William Ayers reaches for me.

Too many people took a deep breath and relaxed, and we got W.

And tell the truth...did you have any damned idea who Bill Ayers was before Fox made him a boogie man? Who calls him "William" Ayers, anyway?

[Judge Jude]

Nate Silver - the guy I trust on the numbers - has Obama at 65 pct to win the Electoral College as of now.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/

but Obama supporters "relaxing" indeed would be a critical mistake come this fall....

[nots]

Too many people took a deep breath and relaxed, and we got W.

And tell the truth...did you have any damned idea who Bill Ayers was before Fox made him a boogie man? Who calls him "William" Ayers, anyway?

I guess I do-is there a problem?

[Judge Jude]

"How much longer until Judge Jude issues a retraction of his hyperbolic statement regarding "the left may have outdone the right on the 'I'll create my own facts, thanks' scale, so that's saying something"?"

When they do, I do

http://factcheck.org/2012/07/romneys-bain-years-new-evidence-same-conclusion/

"On a media conference call about the Globe story, Stephanie Cutter, Obama’s deputy campaign manager, said the story proves that Romney had “full control” of Bain during this time and “therefore directly responsible” for decisions made at companies in which Bain invested. “Either Mitt Romney, through his own words and his own signature, was misrepresenting his position at Bain to the SEC, which is a felony. Or he was misrepresenting his position at Bain to the American people to avoid responsibility for some of the consequences of his investments,” Cutter said.

But we see little new in any of these SEC filings, and a University of Pennsylvania Law School professor we spoke to sees no basis for the Obama campaign’s claim that Romney committed a felony.

None of the SEC filings show that Romney was anything but a passive, absentee owner during that time, as both Romney and Bain have long said.

And we wish to note, we’re not alone in this judgement. Others include... [Washington Post, Columbia Journalism Review, Fortune, ABC News] "

.......

U Penn Law School, CJR and ABC in particular not known for their 'right leanings' lol
but nice try

[chancellor]

I remember that thread. I dont think chancellor put much stock in the emails. He was unconvinced on broader grounds.

J

No kidding. The stolen emails simply proved the fraud rife in the "publish or perish" set of university participants in the "global warming" set.

[Lucky]

I guess I do-is there a problem?

Suggests a lack of familiarity? But you didn't answer the first question, did you?

[chancellor]

Suggests a lack of familiarity? But you didn't answer the first question, did you?

I did! I did! Of course, part of my family cut their teeth in Illinois politics. The whole Ayers issue isn't whether he was a violent scumbag or not - he almost assuredly was, and reinforced it in a 2000ish interview - but whether he really was the influence on Barack Obama the hard right likes to claim. I doubt it.

[Moonlight J]

Nate Silver - the guy I trust on the numbers - has Obama at 65 pct to win the Electoral College as of now.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/

but Obama supporters "relaxing" indeed would be a critical mistake come this fall....

I'm not relaxing

and Cutter's statement was a large over-reach. She should have stuck to the character issue as that could stick.

[JudeBaldo]

U Penn Law School, CJR and ABC in particular not known for their 'right leanings' lol
but nice try

FactCheck is actually run out of Annenberg, which is their communications/media school.

[GwynnInTheHall]

So, where is Chance going to be posting come November 3rd?

[Bob Kohm]

How much longer until Judge Jude issues a retraction of his hyperbolic statement regarding "the left may have outdone the right on the 'I'll create my own facts, thanks' scale, so that's saying something"?


Never did get one from Chancellor regarding global warming and the infamous stolen emails that supposedly disproved global warming......

JJ, in his campaign to not be a shill for any party or candidate, has blundered into being a shill for FactCheck What people need to understand is that when they seek endlessly after "balance" they'll find it every time if they're willing to simply reject the concept that sometimes there just is no balance in a story-- it is exactly as it appears.

[Bob Kohm]

So, where is Chance going to be posting come November 3rd?

If Jason is smart, right here. There was a reason I enforced a ban on those idiotic "vacation" bets. I think that Chance's politics went from being reasonable, grounded ideas that I largely disagreed with to OneJayHawk/RotoRooter with a better vocabulary over the past year, but this concept of him being forced to remove his opinions from the conversation for any amount of time based on an electoral outcome is antithetical to everything this forum was founded on when I debated with Byron for its creation. For all the BS over the years, nobody was ever banned from this site for their views with the exception of spewing racism in the case of SharpTalons. To create a regime where people are "self banned" over their ideas or predictions can be summed up in one word-- idiocy.

[chancellor]

So, where is Chance going to be posting come November 3rd?

Here, of course. And I'll probably end up visiting you in Vegas during your exile.

[Lucky]

If Jason is smart, right here. There was a reason I enforced a ban on those idiotic "vacation" bets. I think that Chance's politics went from being reasonable, grounded ideas that I largely disagreed with to OneJayHawk/RotoRooter with a better vocabulary over the past year, but this concept of him being forced to remove his opinions from the conversation for any amount of time based on an electoral outcome is antithetical to everything this forum was founded on when I debated with Byron for its creation. For all the BS over the years, nobody was ever banned from this site for their views with the exception of spewing racism in the case of SharpTalons. To create a regime where people are "self banned" over their ideas or predictions can be summed up in one word-- idiocy.

Well said. Agree or disagree, we'd be a poorer place without chance.

(That said, he has indeed fallen off the right side of the table lately. I'm chalking it up to his sense of fair play...feeling the need to step in and help the slow kids.)