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  • Originally posted by Lucky View Post
    Well, let's get this straight before we go on. I never mentioned, and don't give a damn, whether Romney got a bonus for the SLC Olympics. My post addressed how chance, who usually has a healthy skepticism about such things, somehow decided to declare there to be "no doubt" that Romney didn't work for Bain after 1999. This is all part of the new chance, the one who slants way farther right than the old chance.

    You apparently decided to be clever at my expense, and in the process came unacceptably close to comparing me with Bill Ayers. Two problems...I have absolutely nothing in common with Bill Ayers...and I was sure you had no idea who you were talking about until you were "educated" by Fox News. One clue was your calling him "William".

    Accusing someone of acting like Bill Ayers, when you don't have a clue what you're talking about, is weak. Now you've worsened things by dragging the Palins and Jeremiah Wright into the fray. This type of misdirection argument is just silly.

    You want to talk me off a ledge? You need more game than these vague accusations and straw man arguments. The only decent point in your posts on this issue (otherwise a waste of band width), was the suggestion that anything having to do with the Palins or Jeremiah Wright is a non-issue. The rest was a waste of your time, my time, and the time of those who have read what we have directed at each other.

    I don't recall where your political views lie, but whenever those on the right try to peg the left by ascribing to them the views of people who just don't play any role in the creation of the liberal ideology, it is sadly humorous. You usually see it in terms of "Liberals believe this", or "Liberals think that", but sometimes it comes in the form of guilt by association...regardless of whether there was actually any association.

    I'd just as soon call this a draw, and not waste our time scrapping with each other. Or we can say you won. Whatever it takes to move us along.
    I think you are looking for a scrap where one doesn't exist. My point was to refute your whining about the likelihood of a Romney presidency and to take exception with some of the superfluous points you made about why he is unelectable. To me it read like the right's nonsense with ayers and wright and the lefts nonsense with Palin baby gate. Somehow you'be turned that into something much more than that. Bottom line as we sit today, Romney is much more likely to lose than win--all the rest is just background noise.

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    • Originally posted by Lucky View Post
      His position may not have changed, but it does seem that he adds his considerable talents, from time to time, to helping the right articulate positions which are difficult to articulate.
      Are you still talking about the nonsense concerning Romney still running Bain after 1999? Havent even the left wing news outlets with some credibility said this is untrue?
      "The Times found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Mr. Biden, beyond the hugs, kisses and touching that women previously said made them uncomfortable." -NY Times

      "For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, you’ve got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she’s talking about is real, whether or not she forgets facts" - Joe Biden

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      • I'm going to disagree with the choir. If the next four months of economic reports do not improve over the 2nd qtr, Romney should win.
        Last edited by cardboardbox; 07-13-2012, 06:38 PM.
        "The Times found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Mr. Biden, beyond the hugs, kisses and touching that women previously said made them uncomfortable." -NY Times

        "For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, you’ve got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she’s talking about is real, whether or not she forgets facts" - Joe Biden

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        • Originally posted by nots View Post
          I think you are looking for a scrap where one doesn't exist. My point was to refute your whining about the likelihood of a Romney presidency and to take exception with some of the superfluous points you made about why he is unelectable. To me it read like the right's nonsense with ayers and wright and the lefts nonsense with Palin baby gate. Somehow you'be turned that into something much more than that. Bottom line as we sit today, Romney is much more likely to lose than win--all the rest is just background noise.
          nots, one of our friends here, for whom I have a great deal of respect, tells me that I read your initial post wrong, or at least read more into it than was there. As I said, I respect this guy's judgement and reason, so I'm going with him on this. That being the case, I'll say to you that I'm sorry and that I shouldn't have blown something small and probably unintentional into a big deal. I hope you'll accept the apology.

          I'll still put my money on Romney to win and Obama to place, but we can debate that later.

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          • Originally posted by Lucky View Post
            nots, one of our friends here, for whom I have a great deal of respect, tells me that I read your initial post wrong, or at least read more into it than was there. As I said, I respect this guy's judgement and reason, so I'm going with him on this. That being the case, I'll say to you that I'm sorry and that I shouldn't have blown something small and probably unintentional into a big deal. I hope you'll accept the apology.

            I'll still put my money on Romney to win and Obama to place, but we can debate that later.

            I'll take that bet
            If I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011

            Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
            Martin Luther King, Jr.

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            • Originally posted by Lucky View Post
              nots, one of our friends here, for whom I have a great deal of respect, tells me that I read your initial post wrong, or at least read more into it than was there. As I said, I respect this guy's judgement and reason, so I'm going with him on this. That being the case, I'll say to you that I'm sorry and that I shouldn't have blown something small and probably unintentional into a big deal. I hope you'll accept the apology.

              I'll still put my money on Romney to win and Obama to place, but we can debate that later.
              No worries. I probably could have written my original post with more clarity.

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              • Originally posted by Lucky View Post
                His position may not have changed, but it does seem that he adds his considerable talents, from time to time, to helping the right articulate positions which are difficult to articulate. He reminds me of one attorney who has cases in my court all the time. I don't always agree with him, but he alwaysfinds a way to make an interesting case, even turning an occasional sow's ear into a purse.
                Thanks. I'm honored.
                I'm just here for the baseball.

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                • Originally posted by GwynnInTheHall View Post
                  So, where is Chance going to be posting come November 3rd?
                  right here

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                  • Originally posted by Moonlight J View Post
                    right here
                    It'll be a virtual victory.
                    If I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011

                    Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
                    Martin Luther King, Jr.

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                    • Originally posted by Moonlight J View Post
                      right here
                      Originally posted by GwynnInTheHall View Post
                      It'll be a virtual victory.
                      Are you both conceding to Romney already?:wtf: I would expect you to hope for a real victory and posts from the White House.

                      J
                      Ad Astra per Aspera

                      Oh. In that case, never mind. - Wonderboy

                      GITH fails logic 101. - bryanbutler

                      Bah...OJH caught me. - Pogues

                      I don't know if you guys are being willfully ignorant, but... - Judge Jude

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                      • Originally posted by onejayhawk View Post
                        Are you both conceding to Romney already?:wtf: I would expect you to hope for a real victory and posts from the White House.

                        J
                        You'd make a terrible interpreter.
                        If I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011

                        Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
                        Martin Luther King, Jr.

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                        • eating their own?

                          "If you have things to hide, then maybe you're doing things wrong. I think you ought to be willing to release everything to the American people."

                          -- Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley (R), quoted by the AP, calling on Mitt Romney to release his tax returns.

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                          • Originally posted by GwynnInTheHall View Post
                            You'd make a terrible interpreter.
                            This was very funny.

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                            • Originally posted by Gregg View Post
                              This was very funny.
                              Doig knows how to deliver a line.

                              I wont speculate if it is the party line.

                              J
                              Ad Astra per Aspera

                              Oh. In that case, never mind. - Wonderboy

                              GITH fails logic 101. - bryanbutler

                              Bah...OJH caught me. - Pogues

                              I don't know if you guys are being willfully ignorant, but... - Judge Jude

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                              • from Forbes http://www.forbes.com/sites/tjwalker...e-can-go-away/

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