Recount

[GwynnInTheHall]

This might gotten lost with other posts

but

"change the system" is about as vague as "make america great again"

You are full of ideas - how about 5 simple ones that every person should do!

LOL was just answering this--I actually thought quite a bit about this and discussed it with a friend for over an hour. I wasn't avoiding it, it's just that THIS was an excellent question and I appreciate the opportunity to discuss this more at length whenever you'd like.

[swampdragon]

Well I thought it was pretty election specific, sure Change the system can have many meanings, but this use was particularly meant to indict our electroral system.

Things are never simple, but I am full of ideas.

1. Expect more. More from ourselves, those around us and absolutely from those who represent us.

2. Expect people to be accountable and advocate serious consequence for those transgress ethical barriers.

3. Figure out if you're really in support of a government of the people, by the people, for the people, and find ways to make our democracy representative for everyone.

4 If you're an American Citizen you are automatically registered to vote and make election day a national holiday.

5 Eliminate Super Pacs and require that every donation to a candidate has a real person attached to it, no more anonymous donors.


I can go on if you'd like.

thinking is excellent- I appreciate the ideas

I am just get stuck on the how to make these things happen

like number 2 - we have a president elect who has little concern for ethics etc. - how can we the average person insure serious consequence?

or how do we start to make democracy representative of everyone?

4 - shouldnt be that tough
5 - might be tough to convince current (and even future legislators) to change things

and 2 - I encourage accountability everyday from my 13 year old students and get a lot of pushback from them, parents and even administrators - but have made it my personal goal for them to understand their own actions

[GwynnInTheHall]

thinking is excellent- I appreciate the ideas

I am just get stuck on the how to make these things happen

like number 2 - we have a president elect who has little concern for ethics etc. - how can we the average person insure serious consequence?

or how do we start to make democracy representative of everyone?

4 - shouldnt be that tough
5 - might be tough to convince current (and even future legislators) to change things

and 2 - I encourage accountability everyday from my 13 year old students and get a lot of pushback from them, parents and even administrators - but have made it my personal goal for them to understand their own actions

I never meant to infer any of this change would be easy or painless.

As for accountability--I'm sure you're familiar with what my daughter went through about 2 years ago--she finally get's it--takes a while and it's tricky--the balance between being tough and being understanding is a fine line.

We both managed to get through it, but I honestly hope I never have to do that again.

With others, I simply state my expectations and the consequences connected with those and if they give a shit, we stay close, if not--well fortunately i have a few great friends who never let me down. the rest I consider acquaintances.

Seriously, the systems are all screwed up and I believe we owe it to ourselves , our families and society in general to do what we can, no matter how small, to move in the direction of positive change.

[chancellor]

The best part about the recount is that Jill Stein is going to pay roughly half the money for costs, and the other half to buttress Scott Walker's budget. Such irony is simply wonderful.

[Hornsby]

The best part about the recount is that Jill Stein is going to pay roughly half the money for costs, and the other half to buttress Scott Walker's budget. Such irony is simply wonderful.

Hey, welcome back!

[chancellor]

Hey, welcome back!

Thanks much!

[GwynnInTheHall]

Thanks much!

Seriously, welcome back--

[chancellor]

Seriously, welcome back--

Thanks. It's strange being back given my history of six-month vacations after elections.

[Gregg]

Thanks. It's strange being back given my history of six-month vacations after elections.

Yeah, I wish you would stop that.

[chancellor]

Yeah, I wish you would stop that.

Hey, I changed my MO this time to only two months before the election. But, admittedly, only because Jason banned GITH's and my election year bet.

[GwynnInTheHall]

Hey, I changed my MO this time to only two months before the election. But, admittedly, only because Jason banned GITH's and my election year bet.

But THIS year we would have been betting against the same person...........