2K14: Billy Hamilton

[kawaise]

http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/...-minor-league/

answered my own question

Coleman missed time that season with an injury, making his record even more remarkable.

[kawaise]

Hamilton has a chance to lead TWO different leaues in SB in the same season.

He had 104 SB in the Cal League - Rico Noel has 82 SB as of today.
He has 35 SB in the Southern League - Josh Prince has 41 in 119 games as of today.

[Moonlight J]

and he has the record!

[mjl]

1 for 2 with two walks, four steals, and an error on the catcher on a pickoff throw. Nice game.

[Judge Jude]

I'm already in this thread that this was as great a "sell high" moment for a contending team in fantasy ball history - quite a while ago - so won't run away from it now.

Wish this guy or his owners no ill will, of course.
But for fantasy baseball, still seems like a 1990s internet stock to me. Somebody in every league wanted to buy "the story." Would love to hear that somebody sold and cashed in with a 2012 pennant. Flags fly forever.

And yeah, if you prefer to ride the story even at risk, I salute you. Lots of ways to play this game. I'm just speaking to the pennant-minded crowd, and that is not everyone. It's just a game, so let your specific passions guide you.....

[Gregg]

I'm already in this thread that this was as great a "sell high" moment for a contending team in fantasy ball history - quite a while ago - so won't run away from it now.

Wish this guy or his owners no ill will, of course.
But for fantasy baseball, still seems like a 1990s internet stock to me. Somebody in every league wanted to buy "the story." Would love to hear that somebody sold and cashed in with a 2012 pennant. Flags fly forever.

And yeah, if you prefer to ride the story even at risk, I salute you. Lots of ways to play this game. I'm just speaking to the pennant-minded crowd, and that is not everyone. It's just a game, so let your specific passions guide you.....

I am doing both. I am out of it in the NL so I traded for a free Hamilton ($15 for 3 years when activated). I believe the hype is just beginning. In our league you cannot win with just a great team, you have to have trade bait for dump trades. Hamilton should get me some difference makers for next year (if needed). If I do not need them I will get a chance to see if Hamilton is the real deal.

Regarding specific passions; mine guided me to trade for a $51 Kemp.

[JudeBaldo]

I'm already in this thread that this was as great a "sell high" moment for a contending team in fantasy ball history - quite a while ago - so won't run away from it now.

Wish this guy or his owners no ill will, of course.
But for fantasy baseball, still seems like a 1990s internet stock to me. Somebody in every league wanted to buy "the story." Would love to hear that somebody sold and cashed in with a 2012 pennant. Flags fly forever.

And yeah, if you prefer to ride the story even at risk, I salute you. Lots of ways to play this game. I'm just speaking to the pennant-minded crowd, and that is not everyone. It's just a game, so let your specific passions guide you.....

Well not all Internet stock during the 90s went bust of course. The trick was knowing which of those were actually founded on something other than dreams.

I had a TON of cheap guys earlier in the year, for example like Harper and Hamilton. I believed their value to be more of the Amazon.com than the Pets.com variety. I could have sold and MAYBE won a title but there was/is no guarantee of that as well. I made some trades here and there that I thought would help me in the hunt. Given the RJEL dyanmics, I believe I still made the right play. If I stay 5th I'll have the number one pick, get to have an even better keeper list for next year having added a cheap Desmond, Reddick, Moreland, Wainright. Next may be an even better year to trade Harper and/or Hamilton.

So in the final analysis, it's not simply trading those guys, but knowing when to trade them.

[Judge Jude]

"Next year may be an even better year to trade Harper and/or Hamilton."

Possibly. Harper, to me, has had a great age 19 MLB season. But the dreamers in a league may be a little rattled, as none of us get the 20-year career except dynasty leagues.
If Hamilton goes 2 for 22 in Sept with 2 SB and 3 CS, it doesn't really change his longterm outlook but I'll bet it changes his trade value a LOT.

[Gregg]

It never hurts to have the #1 prospect on rhd's list.

[DJBeasties]

Say he is the starter next year (hypothetically) what would he go for in standard mixed leagues?

[BuckyBuckner]

Say he is the starter next year (hypothetically) what would he go for in standard mixed leagues?

Way more than he's worth.

[Gregg]

Way more than he's worth.

Probably...unless he steals 100 bases.

[BuckyBuckner]

Probably...unless he steals 100 bases.

I wouldn't bet on it. Pitchers and catchers are much better at holding runners on and throwing them out at the major league level. Do we really believe that he's that much faster than guys like Ellsbury, Gordon, Bourn?

[Gregg]

I wouldn't bet on it. Pitchers and catchers are much better at holding runners on and throwing them out at the major league level. Do we really believe that he's that much faster than guys like Ellsbury, Gordon, Bourn?

Yes, yes we do (all of us who own him). Much much faster than anyone who has ever played the game. Yeah, that's the ticket.

[BuckyBuckner]

Yes, yes we do (all of us who own him). Much much faster than anyone who has ever played the game. Yeah, that's the ticket.

Whatever helps you sleep at night. He could be faster, I'm not sure, I don't know where to find that sort of info. His success rate in A+ was 83% and it dropped to 77% in AA. If his goes down further as he goes up to AAA or even the majors it won't be worth it for him to steal. Isn't the threshold for giving players the green light 75%? Rule of thumb, of course, I know every team is different.