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Where is Trevor Bauer going to end up?
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Originally posted by harmon View PostNow we know why Trevor stretched it out as long as he could.
............If I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011
Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
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Originally posted by Pauly View PostThis clearly pushes Bauer into the first round of draft champions leagues in my opinion; in fact, I think it might put him ahead of Bieber. Thoughts?
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I don't see how you put Bauer ahead of Bieber and DeGrom. Too much risk that you end up with the 2017 or 2019 version instead of the 2018 or 2020 version. He's a nutcase and I don't think anyone can confidently say what he's going to do. The arm talent puts him wayyy up there. But it seems like Bieber/DeGrom have similar arm talent without the risk.
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Originally posted by Ken View PostI don't see how you put Bauer ahead of Bieber and DeGrom. Too much risk that you end up with the 2017 or 2019 version instead of the 2018 or 2020 version. He's a nutcase and I don't think anyone can confidently say what he's going to do. The arm talent puts him wayyy up there. But it seems like Bieber/DeGrom have similar arm talent without the risk.
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Originally posted by Pauly View PostThis clearly pushes Bauer into the first round of draft champions leagues in my opinion; in fact, I think it might put him ahead of Bieber. Thoughts?
Edit: It's statements like this first sentence that can blow up in one's face later on --- we shall see! I hope he's that great (and that he shuts his stupid mouth) and throws 200 IP. I doubt it, but I hope so.More American children die by gunfire in a year than on-duty police officers and active duty military.
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Originally posted by Pauly View PostI would not put Bauer over Degrom or Cole, but the difference in win potential/offense behind him has me wanting to put him over Bieber.
Bieber led the league in wins last year with an offense that started Roberto Perez, Jordan Luplow, Delino Deshields, and Tyler Naquin.
Yes, they made some trades, and losing Lindor hurts, but losing Carrasco has no change in Bieber's win totals. Minus Lindor, adding Eddie Rosario and friends nets you out to what -5 wins? Spread across all your starters that's -1 W per starter. I don't see a huge issue.
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Originally posted by Ken View PostSeems like the win potential is overstated.
Bieber led the league in wins last year with an offense that started Roberto Perez, Jordan Luplow, Delino Deshields, and Tyler Naquin.
Yes, they made some trades, and losing Lindor hurts, but losing Carrasco has no change in Bieber's win totals. Minus Lindor, adding Eddie Rosario and friends nets you out to what -5 wins? Spread across all your starters that's -1 W per starter. I don't see a huge issue.
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Those are Bieber's 8 wins last year. His opponents coming from competent divisions worry me more than the (lack of) offense behind him.
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Originally posted by joncarlos View PostKC
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Those are Bieber's 8 wins last year. His opponents coming from competent divisions worry me more than the (lack of) offense behind him.use of illegal substances to doctor baseballsincreased spin rate will hold up against better competition?2021 Auction Anatomy
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Originally posted by ThatRogue View PostCouldn't we say the same about Bauer's great peripherals coming from facing the Central Division schedule last year? Or do we feel more confident that hisuse of illegal substances to doctor baseballsincreased spin rate will hold up against better competition?
Assuming the schedule is something resembling normal this year, then I think the benefits Bauer gets from leaving GABP for Dodger Stadium help offset the ratio hits he'll take when he leaves the Central.
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Originally posted by ThatRogue View PostCouldn't we say the same about Bauer's great peripherals coming from facing the Central Division schedule last year? Or do we feel more confident that hisuse of illegal substances to doctor baseballsincreased spin rate will hold up against better competition?I'm just here for the baseball.
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Originally posted by joncarlos View PostKC
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Those are Bieber's 8 wins last year. His opponents coming from competent divisions worry me more than the (lack of) offense behind him.
Interesting to line it up against Bauer. Wins against:
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So the news is that good pitchers tend to beat bad teams
(just giving you a hard time here, but I think this argument is odd)
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Originally posted by Bene Futuis View PostGet ready for lots of phantom 10 day DL stints for LA pitchers to keep them fresh. It's what LA does. Still, Bauer might be different than the others, esp Kershaw and Buehler and Urias, because he doesn't appear to have chronic injury issues like they do.
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