I think the hurting Akin has put and is continuing to put on the GOP is really bad. In fact, not only do I think it swings the race back to McCaskill, negating a GOP pickup in the Senate, but it will put Missouri legitimately in play for Obama, as well. That's the one state he lost in 2008 that he now has a legitimate shot at taking in 2012.
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I think you have it right. As bad as it was, he could have salvaged something. His continued stance is the real problem, both for him and the Republican party.
Obama is another issue. There was no Democrat organizational buildup in Missouri. It appears the DNC did not choose to contest the state. So there is only the state supported resources to work with if they want to make a run.
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Originally posted by Bob Kohm View PostAl Franken may be an ass, but if you're seriously comparing him to Akin you have become totally unmoored.
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Originally posted by onejayhawk View PostOf course not. Al Franken got elected. Ask me again after the fall out settles
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It really is amazing at the way the GOP keeps trying to gift the Senate to the Dems for another couple of terms. First it was the self-inflicted losses in Delaware and Nevada in 2010 on a night when the country overwhelmingly emasculated the President and now Akin turns a pretty likely win into a crushing defeat AND puts Missouri back into play for the President (not that I believe he'll need it).
its great political theater.
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Originally posted by nots View PostIt really is amazing at the way the GOP keeps trying to gift the Senate to the Dems for another couple of terms. First it was the self-inflicted losses in Delaware and Nevada in 2010 on a night when the country overwhelmingly emasculated the President and now Akin turns a pretty likely win into a crushing defeat AND puts Missouri back into play for the President (not that I believe he'll need it).
its great political theater.
"The Times found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Mr. Biden, beyond the hugs, kisses and touching that women previously said made them uncomfortable." -NY Times
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Originally posted by cardboardbox View PostIt should be noted that Akin was backed by the dems. Its possible that without their support he wouldnt be the gop candidate. I think one or both of his repub opponents were favored by the tea party.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...9eb2_blog.html
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Originally posted by cardboardbox View PostIt should be noted that Akin was backed by the dems. Its possible that without their support he wouldnt be the gop candidate. I think one or both of his repub opponents were favored by the tea party.
"Senate Democrats got exactly what they wanted in Missouri on Tuesday night. Now comes the hard part.
Republican Rep. Todd Akin’s primary victory clearly boosted vulnerable Democratic Sen. Claire McCaskill’s survival odds this fall"
"There’s a reason why Democrats spent over $1.5 million trying to help Akin win his three-way primary. He was the most conservative candidate in the field — and the most unpredictable one. He shook up his campaign staff late last year. He recently released a head-scratching and jumbled campaign ad. And Democrats have already launched a microsite highlighting his controversial statements that won’t play well with moderates. (“America has got the equivalent of the stage III cancer of socialism because the federal government is tampering in all kinds of stuff it has no business tampering in,” Akin once said.)""There is involved in this struggle the question whether your children and my children shall enjoy the privileges we have enjoyed. I say this in order to impress upon you, if you are not already so impressed, that no small matter should divert us from our great purpose. "
Abraham Lincoln, from his Address to the Ohio One Hundred Sixty Fourth Volunteer Infantry
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Originally posted by B-Fly View PostI think the hurting Akin has put and is continuing to put on the GOP is really bad. In fact, not only do I think it swings the race back to McCaskill, negating a GOP pickup in the Senate, but it will put Missouri legitimately in play for Obama, as well. That's the one state he lost in 2008 that he now has a legitimate shot at taking in 2012.
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Originally posted by Moonlight J View PostSilver still shows a 89% probability for Missouri
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Originally posted by Bob Kohm View PostThe fallout has settled, Jay, and it's given Mitch McConnell a bad case of radiation sickness, lol.
:heyman:
No it has not settled. It barely got stirred up. I give you that McConnell wants Akin to go away, but that was true 6 months ago.
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Originally posted by Bob Kohm View PostThe fallout has settled, Jay, and it's given Mitch McConnell a bad case of radiation sickness, lol.Only the madman is absolutely sure. -Robert Anton Wilson, novelist (1932-2007)
Faith is believing what you know ain't so. -Mark Twain, author and humorist (1835-1910)
A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.
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Originally posted by eldiablo505http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsro...2-4759c78f92be
Well, that was pretty easy. Now, who's "just hot air"?
To praise with such a voice and in such measured terms as to show plainly secret disapproval.
Damn with faint praise, assent with civil leer,
And, without sneering, teach the rest to sneer.
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Originally posted by eldiablo505Any right wingers want to try their hand at defending the fact that Republicans just killed a Dem jobs bill for our country's veterans? Seems like another case of "we can't let Obama have even one victory" to me.
Veteran unemployment rates have consistently surpassed that of citizens and currently sit at 10.9%.
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Originally posted by eldiablo505Any right wingers want to try their hand at defending the fact that Republicans just killed a Dem jobs bill for our country's veterans? Seems like another case of "we can't let Obama have even one victory" to me.
Veteran unemployment rates have consistently surpassed that of citizens and currently sit at 10.9%.
It's not like they sacrificed anything important in their lives..unlike those Senators that face danger everytime they go to their summer home or cruise on their yachts...."I lingered round them, under that benign sky: watched the moths fluttering among the heath and harebells, listened to the soft wind breathing through the grass, and wondered how any one could ever imagine unquiet slumbers for the sleepers in that quiet earth."
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