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I honestly didn't follow along too closely, but are you sure this wasn't proposed and shot down because it would (in the warped minds of some) be construed as a tax increase? If it was never even on the table, then that is a huge failure of leadership on Obama's part because I agree that it would be a relatively easy sell to the public.
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A simple question for you - if the Top 1% earn 20% of the income, what share of the income tax do you think they should pay?
If you answer 20%, then you are arguing for a flat tax rate. But if you believe in a progressive tax rate system, then of course they are going to pay more than 20% of the income tax. That is the whole point of a progressive tax code.Comment
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Um, do you remember when Obama tried to close the loopholes for the big oil companies earlier this year? Closing these loopholes would have saved $77B over 10 years. Meanwhile, the oil companies have racked up profits of $900B over the last decade, and gas prices are higher than ever. 74% of the U.S. population stated that they wanted these loopholes closed. Yet, even this bill could not get past the filibuster.
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I wish he would have attacked it in 2008 when he had some more legislative muscle behind him. And, yeah, that filibuster mess was a pretty sorry laydown, thus my perception that he was not trying all that hard. I find it hard to believe that that was his best effort - Bill Clinton would have mopped the floor with those guys."When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean - neither more nor less."
"The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things."
"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master - that's all."Comment
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"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean - neither more nor less."
"The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things."
"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master - that's all."Comment
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You sidestep the point. I challange you assumption that there is a GOOD IDEA. Put it another way, the field is level when everyone has a gripe. What you are doing is trying to eliminate all the gripes, at least for those you support/protect. This is fundamentally unfair to those outside your group.
Should I tell them Tough ****?
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Oh. In that case, never mind.
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So, because reprehensible Wall Street schmucks took shortcuts and stole their loot, honest businessmen in Colorado who busted their asses and built their fortunes the right way - employing thousands of people and spurring critical economic activity that benefited thousands more along the way - should share their fate? Bill Gates should be punished right along with Bernie Madoff?
I am all for punishing cheaters and other bad actors harshly, but I want no part of doing it through our tax codes, which nets the good fish right along with the bad. The sentiment that "They stole it, so we'll recover it via higher taxes" is rooted in fallacious logic and class bigotry every bit as noxious as Rush Limbaugh's lemmings bloviating that all people receiving public assistance should be treated like welfare cheats."When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean - neither more nor less."
"The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things."
"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master - that's all."Comment
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Raising taxes on the Bill Gates' of the world would not change their lives one bit so your argument sounds ridiculous (to me at least) when you use him as an example.
Although I agree that punishing the cheats is a laudable goal, most government regulatory agencies have had their budgets slashed and so are unable to pursue the cheaters as they should. And why have their budgets been slashed? To 'shrink government by cutting spending'!If DMT didn't exist we would have to invent it. There has to be a weirdest thing. Once we have the concept weird, there has to be a weirdest thing. And DMT is simply it.
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Bullshit is everywhere. - George Carlin (& Jon Stewart)
How old would you be if you didn't know how old you are? - Satchel PaigeComment
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My point is and I challenge YOU to refute it, is that not all income is "rightfully earned" as Sheep stated and thus subject to correction as to make those who've been unfairly put at a disadvantage by unethical and/or those who knowingly abuse a flawed system in gaining their wealth.
Life is as fair as you demand it to be and that's always a good idea to strive to accomplish, however, you may encounter resistance from those who've been benefiting from their dependence that most folks will do nothing to make it fair.
Now we can debate what is fair and what is not, but if you're trying to tell me that "Life's not fair so just suck it up" then of course we'll never see eye to eye on this, not that I ever thought we would.
Edit: Your group should be Mankind-or for all you Xenophobes, at the very least least, AmericansIf I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011
Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
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