'16 Democratic Nomination Thread

[chancellor]

I get that this is the thrust of the anger on this issue (and on Benghazi, from what I understand.)

But, why? What advantage did Hillary Clinton gain by engaging in this behavior? This question, I believe, applies to both the email and Benghazi situations. You are saying that her actions were willful, so.....why?

GITH summed it up well - if we take Hillary at face value, it was all about convenience.

I disagree with GITH on one point - when you fire someone for the same conduct, that's morally wrong. In other words, she's accepting there are rules in place, and she chose to ignore them and fire someone else for doing the same.

[Hodor]

LOL...you know those two statements are contradictory, right Brian? If HRC, essentially has 9 votes, Sanders has no leverage...

And yeah, the game has been fixed all along, just like the NBA lottery...feel better now?

Wtf are you talking about?

If Bernie had no leverage dws would just say fuck you and give Bernie nothing. She's hoping to appease knowing the dnc and Clinton media machine will report Bernie was given almost as many chair slots as Hillary. It's a pr move to be sure, and the other slots go to dws or HRC as they're interchangeable.

So yeah his leverage bought him at least the appearance of some respect, but in the end nothing.

I'll say this right now and you can throw it back in my face.

Bernie will get the planks he wants in the platform, a prime speaking slot at the convention and a position he covets in Congress or he walks, doesn't endorse and possibly runs third party. There will be no in between.

[Hornsby]

Wtf are you talking about?

If Bernie had no leverage dws would just say fuck you and give Bernie nothing. She's hoping to appease knowing the dnc and Clinton media machine will report Bernie was given almost as many chair slots as Hillary. It's a pr move to be sure, and the other slots go to dws or HRC as they're interchangeable.

So yeah his leverage bought him at least the appearance of some respect, but in the end nothing.

I'll say this right now and you can throw it back in my face.

Bernie will get the planks he wants in the platform, a prime speaking slot at the convention and a position he covets in Congress or he walks, doesn't endorse and possibly runs third party. There will be no in between.

You keep making my point for me...

If Bernie had no leverage dws would just say fuck you and give Bernie nothing. She's hoping to appease knowing the dnc and Clinton media machine will report Bernie was given almost as many chair slots as Hillary. It's a pr move to be sure, and the other slots go to dws or HRC as they're interchangeable.

So yeah his leverage bought him at least the appearance of some respect, but in the end nothing.

In other words, it MEANS nothing, just like platform planks. How many do you recall from ANY past convention?

He'll get a prime speaking spot, because again, it costs the DNC and HRC nothing to give him that.

As far as his future in congress is concerned, he'd better watch his step pretty carefully, or he's going to be a party of one...again.

[Hodor]

You keep making my point for me...



In other words, it MEANS nothing, just like platform planks. How many do you recall from ANY past convention?

He'll get a prime speaking spot, because again, it costs the DNC and HRC nothing to give him that.

As far as his future in congress is concerned, he'd better watch his step pretty carefully, or he's going to be a party of one...again.

No you're just reading into it what you want.

Yes it's a meaningless gesture in reality, because they know they control the outcome of the convention if they keep Sanders happy.

If they thought he was truly impotent, they'd give him the same dose of shit they've been handing him all primary long.

[Hodor]

GITH summed it up well - if we take Hillary at face value, it was all about convenience.

I disagree with GITH on one point - when you fire someone for the same conduct, that's morally wrong. In other words, she's accepting there are rules in place, and she chose to ignore them and fire someone else for doing the same.

Was it Hillary that fired him, I don't think that was mentioned.

[Hornsby]

No you're just reading into it what you want. yes sir, just as you are...

Yes it's a meaningless gesture in reality, because they know they control the outcome of the convention if they keep Sanders happy. Yes again...

If they thought he was truly impotent, they'd give him the same dose of shit they've been handing him all primary long. Meh, I don't know about that. However, I don't believe that he'll play nice anyway, which could be to his detriment.

I'm certainly not too impressed with the people that he picked for his committee selections...Keith Ellison is from Minnesota, and really wouldn't have much of a future if it wasn't for his overwhelmingly Dem district. Zogby is a pro-Palestinian advocate, not that there's anything wrong with that, but he's kind of hanging around the fringes. And Cornel West, a leading African American critic of president Obama. May want to check this out for a little taste of Cornel West...

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/06/22/cornel_west_on_obama_the_first_black_president_has_become_the_first_niggerized_black_president.html?wpmm=1&wpisrc=nl_trail

[The Feral Slasher]

I'm certainly not too impressed with the people that he picked for his committee selections...Keith Ellison is from Minnesota, and really wouldn't have much of a future if it wasn't for his overwhelmingly Dem district. Zogby is a pro-Palestinian advocate, not that there's anything wrong with that, but he's kind of hanging around the fringes. And Cornel West, a leading African American critic of president Obama. May want to check this out for a little taste of Cornel West...

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...pisrc=nl_trail

I told him he should have gone with Wasserman, but the dude just won't listen

[GwynnInTheHall]

I'm certainly not too impressed with the people that he picked for his committee selections...Keith Ellison is from Minnesota, and really wouldn't have much of a future if it wasn't for his overwhelmingly Dem district. Zogby is a pro-Palestinian advocate, not that there's anything wrong with that, but he's kind of hanging around the fringes. And Cornel West, a leading African American critic of president Obama. May want to check this out for a little taste of Cornel West...

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...pisrc=nl_trail

I love the Dr.

[chancellor]

Yeah, I guess I agree with you. I guess I'm tired of the damn emails, too. Eight investigations? Just fucking indict her or move on.

Agreed. Completely. Let the FBI do their job, make the call, and move on.

[chancellor]

Was it Hillary that fired him, I don't think that was mentioned.

Not directly, but he was a pay grade 12 employee, so she'd have to approve it. His direct supervisor was not Hillary, though.

[DMT]

Kos, that establishment tool, weighs in.

http://m.dailykos.com/story/2016/5/23/1529938/-11-reasons-why-Bernie-Sanders-lost-this-thing-fair-and-square

[GwynnInTheHall]

Kos, that establishment tool, weighs in.

http://m.dailykos.com/story/2016/5/2...air-and-square

Read that when it come out.

Again, nothing new and not impressed.

[heyelander]

I'll make one prediction... there certainly will not be a "revolution" without President Clinton's Supreme Court nomination.

[GwynnInTheHall]

I'll make one prediction... there certainly will not be a "revolution" without President Clinton's Supreme Court nomination.

Can she nominate anyone while under indictment?

[Lucky]

Can she nominate anyone while under indictment?

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