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  • Sour Masher
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    Originally posted by umjewman View Post
    Kind of surprised she didn’t throw in a “Jews can’t stop the truth!”
    The one thing she respects is firepower. We have her outgunned with space lasers, so she held her tongue.

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  • Teenwolf
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    Originally posted by nullnor View Post
    that would be a good thing.

    I was trying to order ivermectin from India and I think the plan is not going to work.

    Joe Rogan had Dr. Robert Malone on his show this past week, and it was full of lies. Just awful misinformation for the entire thing.

    The Indian region (Uttar Pradesh) that reported to have wiped out Covid by a secret Ivermectin trial, which Biden ordered to be done in secrecy... its all a lie, and it's their only "evidence" of Ivermectin efficacy. Don't be sucked into the right wing conspiracy, Nully. You're smarter than that.

    Here's a guy I watch a lot lately breaking down all of the bullshit being spewed by Malone and Rogan. He's a political twitch streamer. This clip is almost 2 hours, but the Uttar Pradesh breakdown is at the beginning.

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  • umjewman
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    Originally posted by madducks View Post
    Twitter has permanently suspended Georgia GOP Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene's Twitter account for repeated violations of their COVID-19 misinformation policy.

    Rep. Greene released a statement after the ban, part of which said: "Social media platforms can't stop the truth from being spread far and wide. Big Tech can't stop the truth. Communist Democrats can't stop the truth. I stand with the truth and the people. We will overcome!"
    Kind of surprised she didn’t throw in a “Jews can’t stop the truth!”

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  • Sour Masher
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    Originally posted by madducks View Post
    Twitter has permanently suspended Georgia GOP Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene's Twitter account for repeated violations of their COVID-19 misinformation policy.

    Rep. Greene released a statement after the ban, part of which said: "Social media platforms can't stop the truth from being spread far and wide. Big Tech can't stop the truth. Communist Democrats can't stop the truth. I stand with the truth and the people. We will overcome!"
    I am glad she has been booted, but the larger problem remains--the algorithms designed to promote clicks will continue to drive people to outrageous information, regardless of its merit and people will still click and read and be overloaded with misinformation, propaganda, and content meant to anger and upset them.

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  • madducks
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    Twitter has permanently suspended Georgia GOP Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene's Twitter account for repeated violations of their COVID-19 misinformation policy.

    Rep. Greene released a statement after the ban, part of which said: "Social media platforms can't stop the truth from being spread far and wide. Big Tech can't stop the truth. Communist Democrats can't stop the truth. I stand with the truth and the people. We will overcome!"

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  • nullnor
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    Originally posted by Kevin Seitzer View Post
    I'm pretty sure this is false. A brief survey of the literature suggests it is complete bunk, and that vaccines create IgA in the saliva, which is a good proxy for IgA in the mucous membranes of the respiratory and digestive tracts.
    that would be a good thing.

    I was trying to order ivermectin from India and I think the plan is not going to work.

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  • Kevin Seitzer
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    Originally posted by nullnor View Post
    I think I found out why I was wrong about why you can still get infected after vaccination. it has nothing to do with which protein the vaccine targetshttps://doctors4covidethics.org/on-c...r-vaccination/ if this is true it would mean ppl who survived natural infection would be less contagious than ppl only vaccinated. and a future nasal vaccine would be better. I am not sure how this relates to innate and adaptive immunity.
    I'm pretty sure this is false. A brief survey of the literature suggests it is complete bunk, and that vaccines create IgA in the saliva, which is a good proxy for IgA in the mucous membranes of the respiratory and digestive tracts.
    Last edited by Kevin Seitzer; 12-30-2021, 11:59 PM.

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  • nullnor
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    I think I found out why I was wrong about why you can still get infected after vaccination. it has nothing to do with which protein the vaccine targetshttps://doctors4covidethics.org/on-c...r-vaccination/
    Why the vaccines cannot protect against infection
    A fundamental mistake underlying the development of the COVID-19 vaccines was to neglect the functional distinction between the two major categories of antibodies which the body produces in order to protect itself from pathogenic microbes.

    The first category (secretory IgA) is produced by immune cells (lymphocytes) which are located directly underneath the mucous membranes that line the respiratory and intestinal tract. The antibodies produced by these lymphocytes are secreted through and to the surface of the mucous membranes. These antibodies are thus on site to meet air-borne viruses, and they may be able to prevent viral binding and infection of the cells.

    The second category of antibodies (IgG and circulating IgA) occur in the bloodstream. These antibodies protect the internal organs of the body from infectious agents that try to spread via the bloodstream.

    Vaccines that are injected into the muscle – i.e., the interior of the body – will only induce IgG and circulating IgA, not secretory IgA. Such antibodies cannot and will not effectively protect the mucous membranes from infection by SARS-CoV-2. Thus, the currently observed “breakthrough infections” among vaccinated individuals merely confirm the fundamental design flaws of the vaccines. Measurements of antibodies in the blood can never yield any information on the true status of immunity against infection of the respiratory tract.

    The inability of vaccine-induced antibodies to prevent coronavirus infections has been reported in recent scientific publications.
    if this is true it would mean ppl who survived natural infection would be less contagious than ppl only vaccinated. and a future nasal vaccine would be better. I am not sure how this relates to innate and adaptive immunity.

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  • Moonlight J
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    Originally posted by The Feral Slasher View Post
    *************Disclaimer, I am not a health care professional, get your info from a doctor************

    Sorry to hear that you have a family member with covid. My daughter also tested positive about 10 days ago, and it is a stressful time. Hope you all stay safe and healthy. We called our doctor after she tested positive. The doctor said she was most contagious the 2 days before she had symptoms. She also said that 3-4 days after she was healthy with no symptoms she should cease being contagious. We all wore masks around the house and used air filters for 5 days after my daughter had no symptoms. Early guidance that I recall was that people could test postive up to 14 days after exposure. So it is completely possible to get a negative test, but days or even hours later, test positive. We were fortunate that no one else in the family apparently caught Covid. Anyway, I'm not an expert, but wanted to share the info I have for you or anyone else. Hope you and your family get thru this in good health and without much impact to your lives.
    Thanks. Fortunately, the weather has been unseasonably warm here of late so we have the windows open to keep fresh air moving around the house while she stays in her room as much as possible. My son was showing similar symptoms (congestion, sore throat), so I was surprised to see he passed the first basic round. Either way, we're all staying home until symptoms/tests are negative as I had to order home kits because nothing is in stores/libraries around here right now due to poor planning by the state. Wife and I are fully vaxxed (2 pfizer + booster) while kids aren't booster eligible yet. The adults feel completely fine. We've tested just because of the exposure concern since my wife works in the Cardiovascular OR.

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  • The Feral Slasher
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    Originally posted by Moonlight J View Post
    Son's rapid test at the clinic came back negative and I'm waiting my PCR test results. Kids were in the same places & around same people the since a week ago Friday, and have the same vaccinations, so this was an unexpected outcome.
    *************Disclaimer, I am not a health care professional, get your info from a doctor************

    Sorry to hear that you have a family member with covid. My daughter also tested positive about 10 days ago, and it is a stressful time. Hope you all stay safe and healthy. We called our doctor after she tested positive. The doctor said she was most contagious the 2 days before she had symptoms. She also said that 3-4 days after she was healthy with no symptoms she should cease being contagious. We all wore masks around the house and used air filters for 5 days after my daughter had no symptoms. Early guidance that I recall was that people could test postive up to 14 days after exposure. So it is completely possible to get a negative test, but days or even hours later, test positive. We were fortunate that no one else in the family apparently caught Covid. Anyway, I'm not an expert, but wanted to share the info I have for you or anyone else. Hope you and your family get thru this in good health and without much impact to your lives.

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  • Moonlight J
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    Son's rapid test at the clinic came back negative and I'm waiting my PCR test results. Kids were in the same places & around same people the since a week ago Friday, and have the same vaccinations, so this was an unexpected outcome.

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  • hacko
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    Originally posted by TranaGreg View Post
    anyone with serious symptoms? I know a few as well but nothing too serious at this point
    At work we have 41 out today because of covid and last week had our first death - so it is getting pretty serious around here.

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  • Moonlight J
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    My 14-year old daughter tested positive yesterday after waking up with a sore throat, cough, and headache. Felt better by day's end as we received the test result. I'm going in today to be tested even though I'm feeling no symptoms at all. Took 5 hours in a drive-thru testing facility to get her tested yesterday because many folks are either sick or need to get proof of something for travel. I was able to make an appointment 30 minutes outside of town today at a clinic because everything in my town is booked solid until Friday. I had to wake up at 5am to sign up for an appointment for my son later today at an urgent care place.

    Safe to say, we're all planning on being home for the next 5-10 days.

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  • GwynnInTheHall
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    Originally posted by The Feral Slasher View Post
    I'm sure you probably already know this, but I've been seeing a lot of recommendations for getting N95 masks when out in public now. I always mask up, or lately even double mask, but I haven't been wearing N95 masks. Just ordered a box though, seems like a good idea at this point.

    Three days after she got home from college my daughter had a sore throat and tested positive. We set up our HEPA air filters after that and somehow managed to not catch it. She was sick for 2-3 days, for her it was an average cold, thankfully. Not sure if it was Delta or Omicron.
    I hear ya, my oldest has it now, it's lingered over a week, no taste or smell and now her SO and stepfather, (both unvaxxed like my oldest) have it. My youngest, who I pressured into getting vaxxed and their mother (vaxxed), don't have it.

    Pam and I are OK because we're not in the same city. We mask, but I'm thinking a box of N95s might be necessary soon.

    Stay Safe folks.

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  • The Feral Slasher
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    Originally posted by Bene Futuis View Post
    Seems like a few of them are struggling but it's hard to tell - mostly Facebook updates and whatnot. I'm feeling pretty dubious about jumping on this plane the family and I have scheduled for later this week, though, that's for sure.
    I'm sure you probably already know this, but I've been seeing a lot of recommendations for getting N95 masks when out in public now. I always mask up, or lately even double mask, but I haven't been wearing N95 masks. Just ordered a box though, seems like a good idea at this point.

    Three days after she got home from college my daughter had a sore throat and tested positive. We set up our HEPA air filters after that and somehow managed to not catch it. She was sick for 2-3 days, for her it was an average cold, thankfully. Not sure if it was Delta or Omicron.

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