*** VD 12 Commentary Thread ***

[johnnya24]

This may be the first draft that we agree on the format and rules after the draft starts. Should make it interesting.

I will post the full rules tonight.

Standard Last Name draft
No KO's
2 WC's (extra P and OF)

In case anyone was wondering, see VD 6 for the last draft of this similar format.

[The Feral Slasher]

I will post the full rules tonight.

Standard Last Name draft
No KO's
2 WC's (extra P and OF)

In case anyone was wondering, see VD 6 for the last draft of this similar format.

thanks ! Wasn't trying to bust your balls - appreciate you getting this going. I probably should download some stuff and do some calcs at this point

[Kevin Seitzer]

So I have updated stats from revo. Does anyone have a recent Seitzersheet to put them into? I can possibly go dig one up from years ago, but if anyone has one it would save some time. I'm happy to make a Seitzersheet, but I don't want to make it from scratch.

[hacko]

I will post the full rules tonight.

Standard Last Name draft
No KO's
2 WC's (extra P and OF)

In case anyone was wondering, see VD 6 for the last draft of this similar format.

How are we handling Roid rage hitters and today hitters?

[Kevin Seitzer]

Hm, I see that Johnny has been posting spreadsheets for the old drafts. He may be way ahead of me on this.

I have about a week of down time in my job search while the GM meetings happen in California, so I'm happy to help out if needed, if someone points me in the right direction.

[johnnya24]

Hm, I see that Johnny has been posting spreadsheets for the old drafts. He may be way ahead of me on this.

I have about a week of down time in my job search while the GM meetings happen in California, so I'm happy to help out if needed, if someone points me in the right direction.

I normally build the spreadsheet at the end of Round 1 ... when registration ends.

I modded your sheet a tad

[johnnya24]

Oh, and I've no idea about what to do about post-modern hitters. It would make sense to distinguish them nowadays ...

If I changed it to:

For the purposes of this rule, a Contemporary hitter is a hitter who played at all in any season between 1999 and 2005

... would anyone have a problem with that. It's not perfect, but it's better than the standard rule (all players after 1999), and we can use VD12 to come up with a better classification.

[johnnya24]

I'll double check the rules again later today. If anyone can see any glaring errors, let me know.

[hacko]

Oh, and I've no idea about what to do about post-modern hitters. It would make sense to distinguish them nowadays ...

If I changed it to:

For the purposes of this rule, a Contemporary hitter is a hitter who played at all in any season between 1999 and 2005

... would anyone have a problem with that. It's not perfect, but it's better than the standard rule (all players after 1999), and we can use VD12 to come up with a better classification.

Works for me.

[revo]

Oh, and I've no idea about what to do about post-modern hitters. It would make sense to distinguish them nowadays ...

If I changed it to:

For the purposes of this rule, a Contemporary hitter is a hitter who played at all in any season between 1999 and 2005

... would anyone have a problem with that. It's not perfect, but it's better than the standard rule (all players after 1999), and we can use VD12 to come up with a better classification.

Wait, what?

[Bene Futuis]

Hi everyone. Good to be back. Place smells a lot worse than I remember. Must be all the bags of dicks lying around.

KS - I have a few old sheets I can share with you. Just let me know what you're looking for. I have copies of most of the old draft sheets, although I'm not sure which ones have my dubious weighting calculations built into them. I can just get rid of that stuff and send you what you'd like, though. In the meantime, I'm guessing that Revo's modified stats sheet he shared on Google docs will serve as the "official" stats for the players we're drafting, right?

[revo]

Hi everyone. Good to be back. Place smells a lot worse than I remember. Must be all the bags of dicks lying around.

KS - I have a few old sheets I can share with you. Just let me know what you're looking for. I have copies of most of the old draft sheets, although I'm not sure which ones have my dubious weighting calculations built into them. I can just get rid of that stuff and send you what you'd like, though. In the meantime, I'm guessing that Revo's modified stats sheet he shared on Google docs will serve as the "official" stats for the players we're drafting, right?

Good to have you back!

I mean, I was kind enough to share the sheets, lol, but I'm not kind enough to confirm with 100% certainty they're accurate, because I did hand-enter them all.

[johnnya24]

Wait, what?

This was an artifact left over when I was compiling the rules post.

Had to make a decision, no time for polls.

If you have a problem with the rule as is, we can discuss it or improve it.

[revo]

This was an artifact left over when I was compiling the rules post.

Had to make a decision, no time for polls.

If you have a problem with the rule as is, we can discuss it or improve it.

I just think it's not clear enough as you posted.

"Contemporary" is just having played anytime during those seven seasons from 1999 to 2005? Or only if the BY is within those 7 seasons? Is "Post-Modern" a regulated era with maximums?

[johnnya24]

I just think it's not clear enough as you posted.

"Contemporary" is just having played anytime during those seven seasons from 1999 to 2005? Or only if the BY is within those 7 seasons? Is "Post-Modern" a regulated era with maximums?

No if a player played at all during those seasons, he is a contemporary hitter. Same with Vintage hitters and pitchers right? Nothing to do with BY. If there is some BY reference in the rules I'll delete it when I get home.

We only use BY as the distinguishing factor in Decade drafts.

That said ... I'm super rusty on specifics. If you've time have a look and see if there are any other discrepancies.