Pujols and Hamilton...

[chancellor]

Pujols first HR of year against Seattle...

[ThatRogue]

F___ Bonds. He acted like an a-hole. The world has way too many a-holes. He's just another one that pisses off the good people. F___ him.

Hmmmm.... Who exactly are these "good people", of whom you speak? The reporters who many times write articles based on an outcome they want to achieve? The fans who are fickle in their appreciation for players, and who mercilessly harass a player for going through a slump season without knowing that his shoulder is throbbing, his mother is dying and his marriage is crumbling? The owners who made money off of PED use and performance spikes, but who thrust all of the blame on the players, and who, throughout baseball's history ,have often tried to "screw" the players at every turn? The multi-millionaire corporate entities, CXOs, and investors who own season tickets and luxury boxes, but call for the "restructuring of companies" in order to squeeze more EPS out of the companies' performance, and improve the share price while thousands of people lose their jobs? The "average person" who willingly bought more house than they could afford and were complicit in "fudging the numbers", then walked away from their mortgage obligations when the market turned and the house declined in value? The citizen who "rails" against government, but who does not vote, volunteer their time to charitable causes, and misrepresents themselves when filing taxes? I'm very curious as to who are these "good people"?

(Please forgive the cynicism, and this was not personal in any way Mith, as I respect and like you. It is more a commentary and (over?)reaction to the statement. I do not see Barry Bonds as a "good guy" nor a "tragic figure". I do believe he was arrogant and selfish. However, I think many people are that way, and a number of these so called "good people" simply have us fooled *cough* Lance Armstrong *cough* because they (and the media) choose to show a certain public persona that masks the characteristics we would find unsavory if we knew about them. I know of a specific article for a very well respected publication that, when the reporter was asked in private...by someone he interviewed for the story...why he slanted the article to misrepresent the facts presented to him, he said "because my editor felt it would make for a better story".)

[ThatRogue]

How about reading work that shows that PEDs are very much overblown?

http://joesheehan.com/?q=node/638

This post was also worth reading: http://joesheehan.com/?q=node/640.

[chancellor]

(Please forgive the cynicism, and this was not personal in any way Mith, as I respect and like you. It is more a commentary and (over?)reaction to the statement. I do not see Barry Bonds as a "good guy" nor a "tragic figure". I do believe he was arrogant and selfish. However, I think many people are that way, and a number of these so called "good people" simply have us fooled *cough* Lance Armstrong *cough* because they (and the media) choose to show a certain public persona that masks the characteristics we would find unsavory if we knew about them. I know of a specific article for a very well respected publication that, when the reporter was asked in private...by someone he interviewed for the story...why he slanted the article to misrepresent the facts presented to him, he said "because my editor felt it would make for a better story".)

Psycopaths - individuals who are often intelligent and highly charismatic, but display a chronic inability to feel guilt, remorse or anxiety about any of their actions. Their actions include the use of violence and intimidation to control others and satisfy selfish needs.

Barry Bonds and Lance Armstrong are well beyond "arrogant and selfish". They fit right into the definition of psychopath.

[Mithrandir]

Hmmmm.... Who exactly are these "good people", of whom you speak? The reporters who many times write articles based on an outcome they want to achieve? The fans who are fickle in their appreciation for players, and who mercilessly harass a player for going through a slump season without knowing that his shoulder is throbbing, his mother is dying and his marriage is crumbling? The owners who made money off of PED use and performance spikes, but who thrust all of the blame on the players, and who, throughout baseball's history ,have often tried to "screw" the players at every turn? The multi-millionaire corporate entities, CXOs, and investors who own season tickets and luxury boxes, but call for the "restructuring of companies" in order to squeeze more EPS out of the companies' performance, and improve the share price while thousands of people lose their jobs? The "average person" who willingly bought more house than they could afford and were complicit in "fudging the numbers", then walked away from their mortgage obligations when the market turned and the house declined in value? The citizen who "rails" against government, but who does not vote, volunteer their time to charitable causes, and misrepresents themselves when filing taxes? I'm very curious as to who are these "good people"?

(Please forgive the cynicism, and this was not personal in any way Mith, as I respect and like you. It is more a commentary and (over?)reaction to the statement. I do not see Barry Bonds as a "good guy" nor a "tragic figure". I do believe he was arrogant and selfish. However, I think many people are that way, and a number of these so called "good people" simply have us fooled *cough* Lance Armstrong *cough* because they (and the media) choose to show a certain public persona that masks the characteristics we would find unsavory if we knew about them. I know of a specific article for a very well respected publication that, when the reporter was asked in private...by someone he interviewed for the story...why he slanted the article to misrepresent the facts presented to him, he said "because my editor felt it would make for a better story".)

People like me and you Rogue! The hard working decent people who treat everyone with respect.

[fuhrdog]

Anybody who thinks Pujols is going to return to his glory years is in complete denial over his past PED use. Once he signed with the Angels, he stopped his program. How can people not see this?

Home run 7 and 8 tonight.

[Hornsby]

That's also career HR #500 for Prince Albert...and all done clean. Right Tim?

[Erik]

And the Pujols owner in my league is in first place by a wide margin.

[DMT]

And the Pujols owner in my league is in first place by a wide margin.

Mine too.

[chancellor]

Mine too.

Mine isn't in my OBP/SLG league. That happy owner has Albert at 25. Sadly, he also has Billy Butler, Nick Swisher, JJ Hardy, and Robinson Cano. And that would be me...but at least I'm in a strong 3rd place position.

[Boone]

Mine too.

I was there! And he is on my squad! If my Nats are going to play like little leaguers it is nice to have witnessed history and taken a rank point or two ...