2K24: Los Angeles Dodgers

[The Dane]

For whom the bell tolls? For Andrew Toles, who tore his ACL and is probably done for the season.

The probably means Bellinger is here to stay.

[overkill94]

The probably means Bellinger is here to stay.

That's a big affirmative. Once AGon and Forsythe come back it'll be a pretty steady line-up, until then it'll be a mixture of Bellinger/Utley/Hernandez/Van Slyke in the 1B/LF spots.

[Judge Jude]

I don't know his metrics however, I was talking with orel (yes the former dodger ace) and I asked him why LA got such a good deal on Maeda and he told me that his medicals were a disaster. That he's held together with spit and twine.

So yeah, there are a host of hidden injury problems.

3 ER in 12 IP in 2 starts, then 8 scoreless and tries for the shutout, gets an out and a 2-run HR and a W
now 10-day DL

honk if you think he is hurt and the Dodgers aren't shrewd

[overkill94]

The Dodgers are probably going to be the most egregious abusers of the 10-day DL rule - McCarthy could've pitched on Monday but why not give him a little rest? Ryu seemingly wasn't hurt before he came back yesterday but he's probably on an innings limit anyway. Maeda is probably fine as well but he could also use the rest and McCarthy is ready to come back soon.

Bottom line - if you own a Dodger pitcher not named Kershaw you should probably bank on 25 starts instead of 30.

[joncarlos]

And these guys are all walking hospital patients anyway, so it's not like MLB is going to question them.

[revo]

The Dodgers are probably going to be the most egregious abusers of the 10-day DL rule - McCarthy could've pitched on Monday but why not give him a little rest? Ryu seemingly wasn't hurt before he came back yesterday but he's probably on an innings limit anyway. Maeda is probably fine as well but he could also use the rest and McCarthy is ready to come back soon.

Bottom line - if you own a Dodger pitcher not named Kershaw you should probably bank on 25 starts instead of 30.

This is a great point, and probably deserves its own thread, but in this day and age of the 10-day DL, should we start scaling back projections by 10%-15% on most players? I think most, if not all, fantasy players miscalculated the increased usage of the 10-day DL.

We just had a conversation on this in a 15-team I league I joined this year that only has a 5-man bench and no DL, and it's wreaked havoc on most teams.

[Andrewski]

This is a great point, and probably deserves its own thread, but in this day and age of the 10-day DL, should we start scaling back projections by 10%-15% on most players? I think most, if not all, fantasy players miscalculated the increased usage of the 10-day DL.

We just had a conversation on this in a 15-team I league I joined this year that only has a 5-man bench and no DL, and it's wreaked havoc on most teams.

I may be totally off here, but doesn't insurance pay when players are on the DL? If that's the case - and again I may be wrong - but teams would have more incentive to throw guys on a quick 10 day DL if there's even a slight question as to whether they need to be DL'ed.

Here's a 2015 article on insurance: http://www.fangraphs.com/community/i...-a-black-hole/

[revo]

I may be totally off here, but doesn't insurance pay when players are on the DL? If that's the case - and again I may be wrong - but teams would have more incentive to throw guys on a quick 10 day DL if there's even a slight question as to whether they need to be DL'ed.

Here's a 2015 article on insurance: http://www.fangraphs.com/community/i...-a-black-hole/

Well, not sure who wrote this article but it seems well-informed, and this was a paragraph from it:

"To account for this insurers enforce a 60 to 90 day deductible policy in order to shield themselves from these sort of losses as well as claims made for short-term injuries. In addition to the 90 day deductible insurance policies are typically term policies of about three years with an option for renewal after the conclusion of the contract. As a result, if a contract proves to incur severe losses the liabilities will be only in the short term. Obviously to further protect themselves insurers only cover players with no preexisting injuries and all players must be inspected by the insurer. Furthermore, with wide variability and unpredictability in player health an insurer can in a way readjust its rate every three years to better reflect the player’s risk of not playing."

According to this it seems each individual contract that has an insurance policy on it still has a 60-to-90 day elimination period, so a 10-day DL stint would not qualify.

[Judge Jude]

Bottom line - if you own a Dodger pitcher not named Kershaw you should probably bank on 25 starts instead of 30.

I own Kershaw and two Dodgers pitchers not named Kershaw (Maeda, Wood). I'm finding this to be an advantage, granting it might cost me an extra 10 bucks or so this year. We have no bench, but you can reserve a DL'd guy AND "early activate" a guy who is about to be reactivated just after the weekly deadline. So I can play "future closer" for a week, then cut bait on anyone I want to bring Maeda back. Me likey, and Wood will no doubt do the same soon enough.

[Hornsby]

This is a great point, and probably deserves its own thread, but in this day and age of the 10-day DL, should we start scaling back projections by 10%-15% on most players? I think most, if not all, fantasy players miscalculated the increased usage of the 10-day DL.

We just had a conversation on this in a 15-team I league I joined this year that only has a 5-man bench and no DL, and it's wreaked havoc on most teams.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that next season, MLB and the players association agree to tighten the standards by which a player can be put on the DL. It's being so openly abused that it's becoming a joke.

[revo]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that next season, MLB and the players association agree to tighten the standards by which a player can be put on the DL. It's being so openly abused that it's becoming a joke.

I'm sure the MLBPA is loving this, what with new players coming up and getting higher pay and benefits and all that, and I'm equally sure they both knew this would happen.

[GwynnInTheHall]

Urias to have shoulder surgery..........

[Hornsby]

Urias to have shoulder surgery..........

And this is why we can't have nice things...

Same surgery that Johan Santana had that he could never recover from. Not saying it's going to be the same outcome, but it is MAJOR surgery.

[madducks]

Urias to have shoulder surgery..........

So, i guess that pitch limit thingy didn't work?

[Hornsby]

So, i guess that pitch limit thingy didn't work?

Funny you should mention that...just read this tweet.

Andy McCulloughVerified account @McCulloughTimes 50m50 minutes ago

Friedman on Urias: "All of us feel pretty confident if we didn't protect him at all, it could've happened sooner, in a more significant way"

Bullshit...you didn't do anything to protect him. He throws a baseball for a living, a very unnatural act. The human body doesn't like it, and in most people, damage occurs. But you pat yourself on the back Andrew Friedman...