I won a Yahoo league!!

[heyelander]

Sour Grapes would be a good name for a bar.

[Mithrandir]

Sour Grapes would be a good name for a bar.

"Sour Grapes" would be a good name for a bar band.

[Don Quixote]

Call a league meeting. At the meeting, call him out in front of everyone. Ask him to show you the provision in the rules that prohibits what you did. If he can't do it, tell him to quit his bellyaching.

[BuckyBuckner]

Call a league meeting. At the meeting, call him out in front of everyone. Ask him to show you the provision in the rules that prohibits what you did. If he can't do it, tell him to quit his bellyaching.

He's sending his message to the Yahoo league message board so everyone is seeing them. Sadly, the few that have chimed in seem to agree with him. I should just post a link to this thread so they can see other opinions.

[Piney Boy]

Boohoo it is their own fault for not knowing the rules of Yahoo. Then they need to move the league to a site that gives a true hard cap. Other than that quit the bellyaching.

[Controller Jacobs]

It's common sense that Yahoo would do a hard IP cap that way. What would happen if he had a pitcher get a win while going over the cap? Count the innings up to exactly 1400 and exclude the W? He'd complain just as loudly if he lost that way. What if his guy allows 10 runs at the start of inning 1400 without recording an out? He should be able to see now that a hard IP cap comes with a ramifications

[samkillian]

Accidentally started my own thread dealing with the same scenerio, can't believe it happened exactly the same way. Sounds like your commish is on top of it at least, we're still waiting for ours to step up and hopefully put an end to it.

[purplezas]

We had 5 of the top 6 teams pitching anybody they could get their hands on the last 3 days of the season.......we had a blast trying to out do each other.(all 5 teams were double digit innings over)

[madducks]

Two guys responded actually agreeing with him.

They're probably just sucking up to "Sour Grapes" so they can get some free drinks at his bar.

[Fresno Bob]

They're probably just sucking up to "Sour Grapes" so they can get some free drinks at his bar.

yep, he and his barfly toadies need to pull up their big girl panties and deal with losing...can't change the rules mid or late-stream

[Steve]

On a related note, I understand IP minimums, but why does Yahoo use maximum? What's the thought process? To keep people from loading up on starters?

[chancellor]

On a related note, I understand IP minimums, but why does Yahoo use maximum? What's the thought process? To keep people from loading up on starters?

To keep them from streaming starters on a daily basis. Same logic in some of ESPN's leagues limiting number of starts.

[Steve]

To keep them from streaming starters on a daily basis. Same logic in some of ESPN's leagues limiting number of starts.

I keep forgetting about yahoo's daily transactions. My local league still used weekly transactions.

[Don Quixote]

To keep them from streaming starters on a daily basis.

When you have starters as poor as some of the ones I drafted in Mock One, you don't have to worry about the IP maximum, because they don't get that far into their starts.

And yet, my pitching was better than my hitting. I really need to rethink my drafting strategy. Maybe it's time to punt wins and go with more high K/IP relievers.

[dannahann]

He's sending his message to the Yahoo league message board so everyone is seeing them. Sadly, the few that have chimed in seem to agree with him. I should just post a link to this thread so they can see other opinions.

The provision is described in black and white and in great detail in the Yahoo rules as it always has been. It is so commonly utilized that it has long been glossed "a Hail Mary". It is what it is because it pretty much has to be that way. There are what 100's of thousands of yahoo leagues, likely millions of players in total. How difficult would it be to ascertain exactly which play put a team over their innings limit if several pitchers were throwing at that given time? I guess stat-tracker updates "sorta live", but they often change those updates seconds, minutes, or even hours later. Do the minions feeding data to stat-tracker do so at the same speed from every park? Sure they do. I guess they could incorporate IRIG timestamps like they use to synchronize space program stuff on every in game tv broadcast. I mean even if all your pitchers started at 7PM, who is to say the innings thrown in the 6th by pitcher A happened after those in the 5th by pitcher B. I mean I can see guys bitching cause they had two games up on slit screen and KNOW a HR in game A happened a second before the 3rd out of your 1400IP in game B. Maybe that out pitch happened sooner, but by the time the catcher actually won the appeal on a check swing, that 3 run HR was clearing the fence. None of this even scratches more likely scenarios. One of your starters begins to wear down and allows a couple runs and leaves 3 more on base. You still aren't over 1400IP but close enough that a couple other pitchers get you there before 3 pitching changes and 7 runs later, that big inning ends. Is your SP tagged with those 5R? Just the 2 he let in before your timestamped team exceeded 1400? Up the ante, say that blow up inning was the 7th and your starter was up 8-0 going in and his team never relinquishes the lead. That game might end an hour or more after you exceed 1400IP but does his W count for you? It will on his baseball card. It would be bedlam to do it any other way. It is so much easier to clearly state the conditions up front, which they do.
All this doesn't even consider that you likely skipped starts, maybe released a closer, whatever, to ensure you'd be just below your 1400 on the day you fired your Hail Mary. This year I personally geared everything to firing my Hail Mary over a week before the season ended as I had 3 starters on good matchups and in playoff contention that night and saw a week earlier I could grab 2 more P in similar situations. I didn't wait until the final week because I doubted all these guys would still be going if their playoff situations changed, as they did.
Link this thread, he and the rest of your league need to realize you acted fully within the rules and did something available to all of them. If that $300 difference between 1st and 2nd is worth it to them, they'll work as hard as you did next time.