I think the chance that the Rays trade for Huff is close to zero.
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Originally posted by Moonlight J View PostThat's the leverage --- Rays aren't trading from a desperation standpoint. There are cheaper options, like Chris Davis
That there are inferior options is always the case in baseball, but it doesn't create significant leverage in and of itself. Is there something else you see here?
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The Rays did not get success by trading for overpaid players in their mid 30s. The Giants gave Huff that awful new deal and now they must live with it or eat $20M of it if they want to trade him to the Rays. I'd rather see the club trade talent to acquire Chris Davis who has a future and some upside and has not peaked.
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Originally posted by Moonlight J View PostThe Rays did not get success by trading for overpaid players in their mid 30s. The Giants gave Huff that awful new deal and now they must live with it or eat $20M of it if they want to trade him to the Rays. I'd rather see the club trade talent to acquire Chris Davis who has a future and some upside and has not peaked.
The Rays will have to give up more to get Davis, as the Rangers are not a stupid team. Rays lack leverage in that situation, too. They are a well-run team, but they left themselves a bit short this year.
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We are clearly mixed up. Any talks between the Giants and Rays will be with the Giants in a tremendous position of strength; that's a non-starter for a financially-minded Friedman.
The Rays are going to lack leverage in most deals, but going to the Giants and asking them to trade an asset and pay for most of his salary is going to be laughed off. Davis is a different cat because the Rangers are locked in at 3B and DH as long as Beltre and Young are healthy and they really like Mitch Moreland. Davis is a victim of a logjam and the Rays have an abundance of pitching to offer. If the Rays continue in this slide, James Shields easily becomes a marketable player to the Rangers as his $4.25M salary for 2011 is cheap and the Rangers could decline his 2012 option if they don't feel he's worth the $9.25M he's scheduled to make next season.
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Originally posted by Moonlight J View PostWe are clearly mixed up. Any talks between the Giants and Rays will be with the Giants in a tremendous position of strength; that's a non-starter for a financially-minded Friedman.
The Rays are going to lack leverage in most deals, but going to the Giants and asking them to trade an asset and pay for most of his salary is going to be laughed off. Davis is a different cat because the Rangers are locked in at 3B and DH as long as Beltre and Young are healthy and they really like Mitch Moreland. Davis is a victim of a logjam and the Rays have an abundance of pitching to offer. If the Rays continue in this slide, James Shields easily becomes a marketable player to the Rangers as his $4.25M salary for 2011 is cheap and the Rangers could decline his 2012 option if they don't feel he's worth the $9.25M he's scheduled to make next season.
No question the Rays and Rangers could be a match; the players you suggest indicate the Rangers are in the better position there, too. They don't need to trade Davis, much as many of us wish they would!
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Originally posted by chancellor View PostIf the Rays are peddling some of their premier young arms, I'd expect the Brewers would listen to offers for Mat Gamel, too."Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
- Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)
"Your shitty future continues to offend me."
-Warren Ellis
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Originally posted by Hornsby View PostJeez...I'm trying to think if the Twins have any aging AAAA players that they can try to pawn off on some unsuspecting organization.I'm just here for the baseball.
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Originally posted by chancellor View PostGamel can hit. His glove causes severe allergic reactions, but hit...yes. I'm hoping he'll turn into a somewhat competent 1Bman since Fielder will be gone after this year, but knowing Melvin, he'll deal Gamel for a quality arm in a heartbeat if he can."Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
- Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)
"Your shitty future continues to offend me."
-Warren Ellis
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Originally posted by Moonlight J View PostI was always on board with that -- don't know how that was miscommunicated
That's the leverage --- Rays aren't trading from a desperation standpoint. There are cheaper options, like Chris Davis
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Originally posted by Hornsby View PostChris Davis can pound the ball too...against AAA pitching. The jury is still out as to whether Gamel can handle big league pitching. We'll see...he's no kid anymore, he's going to be 26 in July.
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