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  • Originally posted by GwynnInTheHall View Post
    Nobody is worth 100X more than anyone else.
    If that's true, let's allow corporations to screw themselves by paying 100x to their CEOs.
    "The Times found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Mr. Biden, beyond the hugs, kisses and touching that women previously said made them uncomfortable." -NY Times

    "For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, you’ve got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she’s talking about is real, whether or not she forgets facts" - Joe Biden

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    • Originally posted by cardboardbox View Post
      If that's true, let's allow corporations to screw themselves by paying 100x to their CEOs.
      Thing is, they don;t ever screw themselves, they past the cost onto consumers--We get screwed along with the other employees who would make more and rely less on public assistance to make up the difference (again screwing us)
      If I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011

      Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
      Martin Luther King, Jr.

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      • Originally posted by GwynnInTheHall View Post
        Thing is, they don;t ever screw themselves, they past the cost onto consumers--We get screwed along with the other employees who would make more and rely less on public assistance to make up the difference (again screwing us)
        If this company passed the cost to consumers, let's stop buying their products since they now cost more than their competitors who only pay their CEOs 25x.
        "The Times found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Mr. Biden, beyond the hugs, kisses and touching that women previously said made them uncomfortable." -NY Times

        "For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, you’ve got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she’s talking about is real, whether or not she forgets facts" - Joe Biden

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        • Originally posted by cardboardbox View Post
          If this company passed the cost to consumers, let's stop buying their products since they now cost more than their competitors who only pay their CEOs 25x.
          what about their employees? So now they get even more screwed and possibly lose their jobs and again, we foot the bill for their care.

          Why is it so unfathomable that there is such a thing as "too Much"? I mean after all, the accumulation of wealth leads to nothing good, maybe that 's why Christ was against it.
          If I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011

          Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
          Martin Luther King, Jr.

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          • Originally posted by GwynnInTheHall View Post
            what about their employees? So now they get even more screwed and possibly lose their jobs and again, we foot the bill for their care.

            Why is it so unfathomable that there is such a thing as "too Much"? I mean after all, the accumulation of wealth leads to nothing good, maybe that 's why Christ was against it.
            let he market decide what too much is. If there is no value in paying CEOs 100x then it will stop. Maybe if everyone would stop buying iPhones, Tim Cook wouldn't have $500M in apple stock waiting to vest.
            "The Times found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Mr. Biden, beyond the hugs, kisses and touching that women previously said made them uncomfortable." -NY Times

            "For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, you’ve got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she’s talking about is real, whether or not she forgets facts" - Joe Biden

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            • Originally posted by cardboardbox View Post
              let he market decide what too much is. If there is no value in paying CEOs 100x then it will stop. Maybe if everyone would stop buying iPhones, Tim Cook wouldn't have $500M in apple stock waiting to vest.
              So I pose this question : what about their employees? So now they get even more screwed and possibly lose their jobs and again, we foot the bill for their care. You ignore it.

              You then default to the old chestnut of "let the market decide" which is code for, Let them eat cake.

              How about addressing (answering) the question I posed. What about that company's employees......
              If I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011

              Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
              Martin Luther King, Jr.

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              • Originally posted by GwynnInTheHall View Post
                So I pose this question : what about their employees? So now they get even more screwed and possibly lose their jobs and again, we foot the bill for their care. You ignore it.

                You then default to the old chestnut of "let the market decide" which is code for, Let them eat cake.

                How about addressing (answering) the question I posed. What about that company's employees......
                i guess you can keep buying this companies products if you don't want them to fail.

                Look at all the people losing their jobs because of what amazon has done to retail. You guys didn't seem to care when I brought this up in that thread.
                "The Times found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Mr. Biden, beyond the hugs, kisses and touching that women previously said made them uncomfortable." -NY Times

                "For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, you’ve got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she’s talking about is real, whether or not she forgets facts" - Joe Biden

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                • Originally posted by cardboardbox View Post
                  i guess you can keep buying this companies products if you don't want them to fail.

                  Look at all the people losing their jobs because of what amazon has done to retail. You guys didn't seem to care when I brought this up in that thread.
                  Just admit the obvious, you don't care one bit for the welfare of others if it costs you anything. You are also willing to profit at the expense of others. That's OK you're not alone.
                  If I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011

                  Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
                  Martin Luther King, Jr.

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                  • Originally posted by GwynnInTheHall View Post
                    Just admit the obvious, you don't care one bit for the welfare of others if it costs you anything. You are also willing to profit at the expense of others. That's OK you're not alone.
                    you've made all these assumptions yourself. All I wanted to point out is that companies should be allowed to make a huge mistake by paying their CEO 100x the average worker.
                    "The Times found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Mr. Biden, beyond the hugs, kisses and touching that women previously said made them uncomfortable." -NY Times

                    "For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, you’ve got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she’s talking about is real, whether or not she forgets facts" - Joe Biden

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                    • Originally posted by cardboardbox View Post
                      you've made all these assumptions yourself. All I wanted to point out is that companies should be allowed to make a huge mistake by paying their CEO 100x the average worker.
                      And not have the conversation (at least not a realistic one) of ALL the ramifications of them doing so.

                      Again, that's ok--You just do you.
                      If I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011

                      Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
                      Martin Luther King, Jr.

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                      • Originally posted by GwynnInTheHall View Post
                        And not have the conversation (at least not a realistic one) of ALL the ramifications of them doing so.

                        Again, that's ok--You just do you.
                        Do you think Apple would be better off paying their CEO $1 million? Do you think that savings would make them a stronger company? Yes, these CEOs are paid so much that I cant even understand how the company decided they were worth it. But OTOH, they are probably in a position to overpay to make sure they have strong leadership/management and their employees are likely better off. Who would Apple hire at $1M? Someone unproven who could lead them off a cliff and destroy their brand and company and lead to layoffs?
                        "The Times found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Mr. Biden, beyond the hugs, kisses and touching that women previously said made them uncomfortable." -NY Times

                        "For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, you’ve got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she’s talking about is real, whether or not she forgets facts" - Joe Biden

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                        • Originally posted by cardboardbox View Post
                          Do you think Apple would be better off paying their CEO $1 million? Do you think that savings would make them a stronger company? Yes, these CEOs are paid so much that I cant even understand how the company decided they were worth it. But OTOH, they are probably in a position to overpay to make sure they have strong leadership/management and their employees are likely better off. Who would Apple hire at $1M? Someone unproven who could lead them off a cliff and destroy their brand and company and lead to layoffs?
                          So you're ok with putting financial pressure on a company leading to ruin and layoffs, but if they reduce a CEO salary and it leads to the same thing, that's wrong or bad and NOW you're concerned?

                          You have one constant, you want to see or are happy with putting the most money in people's hands regardless of the collateral cost. You oppose anything that suggests spreading the wealth. And again, that's all ok and seriously--You are NOT alone.


                          FWIW, as much as I differ from you and dislike you positions and how you interact in here (I have many who feel the same about me) I'd NEVER assert that I or anyone else here was 100 more valuable than you. Which is what my original statement was.
                          If I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011

                          Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
                          Martin Luther King, Jr.

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                          • Originally posted by GwynnInTheHall View Post
                            So you're ok with putting financial pressure on a company leading to ruin and layoffs, but if they reduce a CEO salary and it leads to the same thing, that's wrong or bad and NOW you're concerned?
                            All I said was a company should be allowed to make a mistake by paying their CEO too much. I dont think I'll affect Apple if I refuse to buy their products in protest because Tim Cook makes $150M/yr.
                            "The Times found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Mr. Biden, beyond the hugs, kisses and touching that women previously said made them uncomfortable." -NY Times

                            "For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, you’ve got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she’s talking about is real, whether or not she forgets facts" - Joe Biden

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                            • Originally posted by cardboardbox View Post
                              All I said was a company should be allowed to make a mistake by paying their CEO too much. I dont think I'll affect Apple if I refuse to buy their products in protest because Tim Cook makes $150M/yr.
                              So then you're ok with say--the welfare dept making a 100 million dollar a year mistake?
                              If I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011

                              Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
                              Martin Luther King, Jr.

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                              • Originally posted by GwynnInTheHall View Post
                                So then you're ok with say--the welfare dept making a 100 million dollar a year mistake?
                                I dont pay taxes to Apple. Anything they screw up on is dealt with by their board and shareholders.
                                "The Times found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Mr. Biden, beyond the hugs, kisses and touching that women previously said made them uncomfortable." -NY Times

                                "For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, you’ve got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she’s talking about is real, whether or not she forgets facts" - Joe Biden

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