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  • Very interesting article from conservative Andrew Sullivan. Way too long to quote in its entirety here but I urge everyone, especially my fellow liberals, to read every word. Condensed although still too long, with some emphasis added:

    You hear it everywhere. Democrats are disappointed in the president. Independents have soured even more. Republicans have worked themselves up into an apocalyptic fervor.

    A president in the last year of his first term will always get attacked mercilessly by his partisan opponents, and also, often, by the feistier members of his base…It’s not that I don’t understand the critiques of Barack Obama from the enraged right and the demoralized left. It’s that I don’t even recognize their description of Obama’s first term in any way. The attacks from both the right and the left on the man and his policies aren’t out of bounds. They’re simply—empirically—wrong.

    But given the enormity of what he inherited, and given what he explicitly promised, it remains simply a fact that Obama has delivered in a way that the unhinged right and purist left have yet to understand or absorb.

    On the economy, the facts are these. When Obama took office, the United States was losing around 750,000 jobs a month. The last quarter of 2008 saw an annualized drop in growth approaching 9 percent. This was the most serious downturn since the 1930s, there was a real chance of a systemic collapse of the entire global financial system…No fair person can blame Obama for the wreckage of the next 12 months, as the financial crisis cut a swath through employment. Economies take time to shift course.

    But Obama did several things at once: he continued the bank bailout begun by George W. Bush, he initiated a bailout of the auto industry, and he worked to pass a huge stimulus package of $787 billion.

    (I)n retrospect, they were far more successful than anyone has yet fully given Obama the credit for. The job collapse bottomed out at the beginning of 2010, as the stimulus took effect. Since then, the U.S. has added 2.4 million jobs. That’s not enough, but it’s far better than what Romney would have you believe, and more than the net jobs created under the entire Bush administration…Overall government employment has declined 2.6 percent over the past 3 years. (That compares with a drop of 2.2 percent during the early years of the Reagan administration.) To listen to current Republican rhetoric about Obama’s big-government socialist ways, you would imagine that the reverse was true. It isn’t.

    You’d think, listening to the Republican debates, that Obama has raised taxes. Again, this is not true. Not only did he agree not to sunset the Bush tax cuts for his entire first term, he has aggressively lowered taxes on most Americans. A third of the stimulus was tax cuts, affecting 95 percent of taxpayers; he has cut the payroll tax, and recently had to fight to keep it cut against Republican opposition. His spending record is also far better than his predecessor’s.

    On foreign policy, the right-wing critiques have been the most unhinged. Romney accuses the president of apologizing for America, and others all but accuse him of treason and appeasement. Instead, Obama reversed Bush’s policy of ignoring Osama bin Laden, immediately setting a course that eventually led to his capture and death. And when the moment for decision came, the president overruled both his secretary of state and vice president in ordering the riskiest—but most ambitious—plan on the table. He even personally ordered the extra helicopters that saved the mission. If George Bush had taken out bin Laden, wiped out al Qaeda’s leadership, and gathered a treasure trove of real intelligence by a daring raid, he’d be on Mount Rushmore by now…Since he took office, al Qaeda’s popularity in the Muslim world has plummeted.

    But the right isn’t alone in getting Obama wrong. While the left is less unhinged in its critique...(f)rom the start, liberals projected onto Obama absurd notions of what a president can actually do in a polarized country, where anything requires 60 Senate votes even to stand a chance of making it into law.

    They miss, it seems to me, two vital things. The first is the simple scale of what has been accomplished on issues liberals say they care about. A depression was averted. The bail-out of the auto industry was—amazingly—successful. Even the bank bailouts have been repaid to a great extent by a recovering banking sector. The Iraq War—the issue that made Obama the nominee—has been ended on time and, vitally, with no troops left behind. Defense is being cut steadily, even as Obama has moved his own party away from a Pelosi-style reflexive defense of all federal entitlements.

    Gays now openly serve in the military, and the Defense of Marriage Act is dying in the courts, undefended by the Obama Justice Department…Torture was ended. Two moderately liberal women replaced men on the Supreme Court…To have done all this while simultaneously battling an economic hurricane makes Obama about as honest a follow-through artist as anyone can expect from a politician.

    (H)e has done the most important thing of all: excising the cancer of torture from military detention and military justice. If he is not reelected, that cancer may well return. Indeed, many on the right appear eager for it to return.

    If I sound biased, that’s because I am. Biased toward the actual record, not the spin; biased toward a president who has conducted himself with grace and calm under incredible pressure, who has had to manage crises not seen since the Second World War and the Depression, and who as yet has not had a single significant scandal to his name…What I see in front of my nose is a president whose character, record, and promise remain as grotesquely underappreciated now as they were absurdly hyped in 2008.
    “Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.”
    -Ralph Waldo Emerson

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    • Originally posted by GwynnInTheHall View Post
      Rosanna Rosanna Dana did it first.
      Emily Litella was "never mind." Roseanne would just get grosser and grosser until Jane put a stop to it.
      Originally posted by Kevin Seitzer
      We pinch ran for Altuve specifically to screw over Mith's fantasy team.

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      • Originally posted by Erik View Post
        Emily Litella was "never mind."
        "What's all this I hear about presidential erections?"
        “Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.”
        -Ralph Waldo Emerson

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        • what happened to posting about 5 sentences?

          and you cant post this without The Onion worthy newsweek cover. They have perfected the art of satire, I never know if its real!

          "The Times found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Mr. Biden, beyond the hugs, kisses and touching that women previously said made them uncomfortable." -NY Times

          "For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, you’ve got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she’s talking about is real, whether or not she forgets facts" - Joe Biden

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          • This is a publication that was sold for $1, how seriously can you take it?
            Originally posted by Kevin Seitzer
            We pinch ran for Altuve specifically to screw over Mith's fantasy team.

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            • Originally posted by Erik View Post
              This is a publication that was sold for $1, how seriously can you take it?
              I take my comedy very seriously.
              "The Times found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Mr. Biden, beyond the hugs, kisses and touching that women previously said made them uncomfortable." -NY Times

              "For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, you’ve got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she’s talking about is real, whether or not she forgets facts" - Joe Biden

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              • Saw a guy with an 'Impeach Obama' booth on the main street of my town today. Had 'End Obama's Wars' and 'Stop Glass-Steagil' signs. It was the paid for by the LaRouche PAC'. I didn't want to be seen with these people, so I didn't go over there, but is that Lyndon LaRouche's group?
                The artwork was very professional, but the guy was seriously off his meds.

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                • Originally posted by cardboardbox View Post
                  what happened to posting about 5 sentences?

                  and you cant post this without The Onion worthy newsweek cover. They have perfected the art of satire, I never know if its real!

                  Agreed, though it is a great shot of his sinuses. Since when is Andrew Sullivan a conservative minded independant?

                  J
                  Ad Astra per Aspera

                  Oh. In that case, never mind. - Wonderboy

                  GITH fails logic 101. - bryanbutler

                  Bah...OJH caught me. - Pogues

                  I don't know if you guys are being willfully ignorant, but... - Judge Jude

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                  • Even Ron Paul's most out-there followers would think LaRouche is a crackpot. He's seriously insane.
                    Originally posted by Kevin Seitzer
                    We pinch ran for Altuve specifically to screw over Mith's fantasy team.

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                    • Originally posted by eldiablo505
                      Which one of the wars is Obama's? And who in their right mind wants to stop Glass Steagal? Come to think of it, wasn't Glass Steagal already stopped?

                      Sigh.
                      I am in Afghanistan, and I would credit him this one. What was once a minimalist presence has vastly expanded.

                      J
                      Ad Astra per Aspera

                      Oh. In that case, never mind. - Wonderboy

                      GITH fails logic 101. - bryanbutler

                      Bah...OJH caught me. - Pogues

                      I don't know if you guys are being willfully ignorant, but... - Judge Jude

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                      • Originally posted by onejayhawk View Post
                        I am in Afghanistan, and I would credit him this one. What was once a minimalist presence has vastly expanded.
                        that doesn't seem defensible. afghanistan was clearly started by GBA. the only one you could stretch to would be libya, if you even *call* that a "war."
                        "Instead of all of this energy and effort directed at the war to end drugs, how about a little attention to drugs which will end war?" Albert Hofmann

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                        • no surprise - obama announces his new director of the office of management and budget today, and he is a wealthy investment banker.

                          kind of a surprise - jeffrey zients used to work at... (wait for it) bain capital. lol
                          ~ all in all is all we are ~

                          kc

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                          • Originally posted by Cobain's Ghost View Post
                            no surprise - obama announces his new director of the office of management and budget today, and he is a wealthy investment banker.

                            kind of a surprise - jeffrey zients used to work at... (wait for it) bain capital. lol
                            well, which particular bank aside, who would you pick for director of OMB but somebody with a lot of history with money? and, well, successful investment bankers are going to be wealthy - why would you be surprised at that?
                            "Instead of all of this energy and effort directed at the war to end drugs, how about a little attention to drugs which will end war?" Albert Hofmann

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                            • Originally posted by bryanbutler View Post
                              well, which particular bank aside, who would you pick for director of OMB but somebody with a lot of history with money? and, well, successful investment bankers are going to be wealthy - why would you be surprised at that?
                              C'mon, you're ignoring the apparent hypocrisy that even many liberals have noted on this board. The Obama administration routinely condemns big banking and investment interests, and then routinely brings them into the administration. They'll attack Romney on his Bain experience...and then bring in a head of OMB with Bain experience, and have Dems accept more money from Bain than the GOP.

                              Of course, if Zients can file his own tax return competently, that'll put him ahead of Geithner.
                              I'm just here for the baseball.

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                              • Originally posted by bryanbutler View Post
                                that doesn't seem defensible. afghanistan was clearly started by GBA. the only one you could stretch to would be libya, if you even *call* that a "war."
                                President Obama has tripled our troop level there so, while he didn't start that war, he has certainly escalated it and seems rather comfortable with that escalation despite its cost and dubious benefits.

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