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At What Point Does This Become a Constitutional Crisis?
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Originally posted by PaleoMan View Postthe progressives need to listen to Ratigan. He seems to be the only pundit to understand the collective danger we face as a nation. America is essentially being stripmined to this zero sum global currency solution:
I love it.
it's pretty much where i stand--outside of a handful of congresspeople, the whole lot of em suck.If I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011
Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
Martin Luther King, Jr.
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Pretty scary to ponder. So according to his deduction, 32% of the voting electorate are literally a SPECIAL INTEREST and will vote accordingly to protect these perks for either them-self or their spouse. It's probably in the low-mid 20s though since voter participation cannot be 100%, but there has been studies in the past which show that government workers have exhibited higher percentage of voter participation that your average citizen.
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Originally posted by PaleoMan View PostPretty scary to ponder. So according to his deduction, 32% of the voting electorate are literally a SPECIAL INTEREST and will vote accordingly to protect these perks for either them-self or their spouse. It's probably in the low-mid 20s though since voter participation cannot be 100%, but there has been studies in the past which show that government workers have exhibited higher percentage of voter participation that your average citizen.
JAd Astra per Aspera
Oh. In that case, never mind. - Wonderboy
GITH fails logic 101. - bryanbutler
Bah...OJH caught me. - Pogues
I don't know if you guys are being willfully ignorant, but... - Judge Jude
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Originally posted by PaleoMan View Postthe progressives need to listen to Ratigan. He seems to be the only pundit to understand the collective danger we face as a nation. America is essentially being stripmined to this zero sum global currency solution:
"I lingered round them, under that benign sky: watched the moths fluttering among the heath and harebells, listened to the soft wind breathing through the grass, and wondered how any one could ever imagine unquiet slumbers for the sleepers in that quiet earth."
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Provocative:
"The root of our current problem is that there are no grownups in positions of serious power in Washington. I've never felt this way before -- and I've written business stories for more than 40 years, and about national finances for more than 20...... I spent July on family leave, not writing columns, and watching with increasing horror as market-illiterate know-nothings, abetted by the craven leaders of the Republican Party (from which I'm about to resign) and the unspeakable ineptness of Obama and his minions, brought our country to within an inch of defaulting on its debts."finished 10th in this 37th yr in 11-team-only NL 5x5
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Originally posted by Judge Jude View PostProvocative:
"The root of our current problem is that there are no grownups in positions of serious power in Washington. I've never felt this way before -- and I've written business stories for more than 40 years, and about national finances for more than 20...... I spent July on family leave, not writing columns, and watching with increasing horror as market-illiterate know-nothings, abetted by the craven leaders of the Republican Party (from which I'm about to resign) and the unspeakable ineptness of Obama and his minions, brought our country to within an inch of defaulting on its debts."
This won't go over well here, but it seems to me that the Tea Party is intransigent because they believe they are 100% right on every issue, which is very seldom the case. On the other side, Obama continues his futile efforts to reach out to the Republican leadership, which has gotten him pretty much zero in two plus years. He needs to settle upon a set of positions and stick to his guns. Maybe then, both sides will realize they have to compromise a little.
It's just irresponsibility and craven cowardice for every Republican candidate to say they wouldn't accept a debt reduction plan with $10 in spending cuts for every $1 in revenue enhancements. Will anyone openly disagree with this? Will anyone here say that a 10/1 deficit reduction plan is not a brilliant beginning to finding our way out of the wilderness?
I've asked several times before, and nobody here will claim membership in the Tea Party. Will any Tea Party sympathizers denounce their absolute one-sided plan for deficit reduction? Anyone?
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Originally posted by Lucky View PostIt's just irresponsibility and craven cowardice for every Republican candidate to say they wouldn't accept a debt reduction plan with $10 in spending cuts for every $1 in revenue enhancements. Will anyone openly disagree with this? Will anyone here say that a 10/1 deficit reduction plan is not a brilliant beginning to finding our way out of the wilderness?
I've asked several times before, and nobody here will claim membership in the Tea Party. Will any Tea Party sympathizers denounce their absolute one-sided plan for deficit reduction? Anyone?
Heck, even some Democrats are beginning to get it. I can't remember the person's name, but one astutely noted that we can cut an additional $4 trillion in the next ten years with "no heavy lifting". If the Dems would actually show some leadership, do some "heavy lifting" and double that number, they'd easily have the political capital to get the Bush tax cuts eliminated. But it's obvious they don't have that leadership in the Senate or the Presidency.
So far, the only fiscal leadership discipline has come from the Tea Party, and frankly, what they allowed to pass is weak sauce at best.I'm just here for the baseball.
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Originally posted by Lucky View PostWill anyone here say that a 10/1 deficit reduction plan is not a brilliant beginning to finding our way out of the wilderness?
Carping about hypothetical resistance to phantom proposals that have never been made and will never be made makes for clever gamesmanship, but it's all empty bluster until you actually put some chips at risk. If 10/1 was seriously put on the table, I'll bet The Repub's would take it. I'll also bet that The Dems will never seriously put 10/1 on the table."When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean - neither more nor less."
"The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things."
"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master - that's all."
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Originally posted by senorsheep View PostI'll also bet that The Dems will never seriously put 10/1 on the table."The Times found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Mr. Biden, beyond the hugs, kisses and touching that women previously said made them uncomfortable." -NY Times
"For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, you’ve got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she’s talking about is real, whether or not she forgets facts" - Joe Biden
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Originally posted by cardboardbox View Postoh the dems would offer that but it would be 10 in taxes, 1 in cuts."When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean - neither more nor less."
"The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things."
"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master - that's all."
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A quick google search finds this on Udall: http://markudall.senate.gov/?p=issue&id=8
We all know that government doesn't create jobs - the private sector does."The Times found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Mr. Biden, beyond the hugs, kisses and touching that women previously said made them uncomfortable." -NY Times
"For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, you’ve got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she’s talking about is real, whether or not she forgets facts" - Joe Biden
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