2016 SOTU Address and Rebuttal

[In the Corn]

I watched the State of the Union Address last night. I thought it was Obama's best speech. He was laser focused. Let us know upfront what he was going to talk about, and I liked that he understood to speak in general terms instead of specific policies (while he still slid some in). I think he realized he can't get a lot of policies through in his last year.

There was nothing that he said that I didn't disagree with. I thought his final point about Congress and Americans needing to come together to compromise and work together on issues was a much needed message. I like that he called us all the be Americans, first. Then place our other labels after that. Completely agree with him on this. My personal example...as a Christian who believes that the act of homosexuality is a sin, I need to lay that aside and let people marry whoever they desire. My personal beliefs don't trump someone else's rights.

I thought the Governor of South Carolina came out afterward and killed it as well.

Both speeches called for reconcillation and teamwork. They called out the fringes of both parties which the majority of America doesn't agree with.

Overall, two great speeches that echoed a lot of the same ideas.

Afterward, I hop on social media, and what do I find. Everyone bitching and moaning about the other party.

Seems we only want to hear what we agree with...no one listens anymore. So very, very disappointing.

[Mithrandir]

I had no idea this was last night. I'm not sure why this even matters anymore.

[onejayhawk]

This thread is a commentary on the speech and the interest it generated. The GOP sent out the 3rd string for rebuttal.

J

[Fresno Bob]

my son tried to get me to bet him that Obama would not say "The State of Union is Strong", and he didn't, until the very last line....

[Pogues]

Funny how the call to work together, especially in regards to Congress, always seems to come when the President and Congress don't all align to the same party.

[Lucky]

This thread is a commentary on the speech and the interest it generated. The GOP sent out the 3rd string for rebuttal.

J

The "3rd string" had her speech vetted heavily by the NRC and by Republican Congressional leaders. Makes it hard to consider her the third string, doesn't it, when she's throwing pitches they are calling from the bench?

[Lucky]

I watched the State of the Union Address last night. I thought it was Obama's best speech. He was laser focused. Let us know upfront what he was going to talk about, and I liked that he understood to speak in general terms instead of specific policies (while he still slid some in). I think he realized he can't get a lot of policies through in his last year.

There was nothing that he said that I didn't disagree with. I thought his final point about Congress and Americans needing to come together to compromise and work together on issues was a much needed message. I like that he called us all the be Americans, first. Then place our other labels after that. Completely agree with him on this. My personal example...as a Christian who believes that the act of homosexuality is a sin, I need to lay that aside and let people marry whoever they desire. My personal beliefs don't trump someone else's rights.

I thought the Governor of South Carolina came out afterward and killed it as well.

Both speeches called for reconcillation and teamwork. They called out the fringes of both parties which the majority of America doesn't agree with.

Overall, two great speeches that echoed a lot of the same ideas.

Afterward, I hop on social media, and what do I find. Everyone bitching and moaning about the other party.

Seems we only want to hear what we agree with...no one listens anymore. So very, very disappointing.

I think this is a very thoughtful analysis, and one that captures the intellectual and emotional essence of both speeches. There's nothing more I would add. Good work.

[Moonlight J]

[onejayhawk]

The "3rd string" had her speech vetted heavily by the NRC and by Republican Congressional leaders. Makes it hard to consider her the third string, doesn't it, when she's throwing pitches they are calling from the bench?

4th string? AAA call up? Sacrificial lamb? She was proof that the party elite have no more idea of what is going on than the NY Times.

J

[Hodor]

4th string? AAA call up? Sacrificial lamb? She was proof that the party elite have no more idea of what is going on than the NY Times.

J

You don't know what the fuck you're talking about or as we say in here..... HODOR.

[GwynnInTheHall]

You don't know what the fuck you're talking about or as we say in here..... HODOR.

OK, that was a bit harsh, but you know where I'm coming from.

[onejayhawk]

OK, that was a bit harsh, but you know where I'm coming from.

No. I do not. She was a good looking nobody reading a teleprompter badly. That is exactly what I described.

BTW Hodor is when you cannot follow an intelligent conversation and wish you could.

J

[Fresno Bob]

still waiting on Jerry Brown chickenhawk