'16 Democratic Nomination Thread

[GwynnInTheHall]

You have a record, Doig?

The more I think about it, the more damned arrogant I think it is for you to speculate in a post about what may or may not have been going through my mind when last we crossed paths.

And that may just offer an insight as to why the Sanders campaign is so right for you. You can simultaneously feel superior and play the victim card. And you can hang out with your new pseudo-radical buddies and talk about how much the "establishment" screwed you and Bernie. It's hard to say whether ignorance or arrogance is the greater force behind that campaign.

Yes I am that arrogant.

And I'm right.

Thanks for proving my point.

Edit: I've never said I was a victim, ever.

But again, thanks.

[GwynnInTheHall]

That's exactly my point, finding an "unbiased" take on what happened is virtually impossible, everyone is likely to go to videos that support their position...No one is denying that it was chaotic, there's just little evidence to me that anything was fixed. Could it have been handled better by both sides? Sure. Will it change in the future? Probably. Here's a fairly even handed account of what happened.

If you can watch that video and not see that it supports my POV, knowing that every member of the Nevada Democratic Leadership supports Hillary (not one Sanders supporter in any elected position), hell even if you dont know that--We can't really talk about much anymore, because it's obvious they took every chance at a clear and obvious process, which would have ended all debate and threw it out the window.

This over 5 freaking delegates.

Sanders lost by what'd they say 30 delegate votes? the wouldn't let How many Sanders delegates votes because they couldn't find their records?' 50 something to the 8 of Clintons?

Going into the County conventions they lost 25% of Sanders delegate info including MINE, I was elected, registers and had all my paperwork and I almost was denied. Again if that doesn't seem fishy, you're in denial.

[Hornsby]

If you can watch that video and not see that it supports my POV, knowing that every member of the Nevada Democratic Leadership supports Hillary (not one Sanders supporter in any elected position), hell even if you dont know that--We can't really talk about much anymore, because it's obvious they took every chance at a clear and obvious process, which would have ended all debate and threw it out the window.

This over 5 freaking delegates.

Sanders lost by what'd they say 30 delegate votes? the wouldn't let How many Sanders delegates votes because they couldn't find their records?' 50 something to the 8 of Clintons?

Going into the County conventions they lost 25% of Sanders delegate info including MINE, I was elected, registers and had all my paperwork and I almost was denied. Again if that doesn't seem fishy, you're in denial.

"Almost denied" means that you WERE'NT denied. You made it in, because you had proper paperwork, like you should have. You have no idea that the others denied did, or didn't, have the same required paperwork.

And the video shows exactly what we know, it was a chaotic situation, much of it brought on by the Sanders people. Some of it brought on by the party...odd that such a fucked up system failed to deliver clear and concise results.

[DMT]

Pretty funny.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/compost/wp/2016/05/18/if-sanders-supporters-complained-about-other-things-the-way-they-complain-about-election-results/

[GwynnInTheHall]

"Almost denied" means that you WERE'NT denied. You made it in, because you had proper paperwork, like you should have. You have no idea that the others denied did, or didn't, have the same required paperwork.

And the video shows exactly what we know, it was a chaotic situation, much of it brought on by the Sanders people. Some of it brought on by the party...odd that such a fucked up system failed to deliver clear and concise results.

I made it in because my wife got an email asking HER to attend, had I been with someone else who wasn't a sanders supporter I would have missed it all together as I received NO notification.

I have been told that after the Flip at County the Dem Party and the HRC campaign wen't all out to flip it back and they did.

You can think all you want it's legit, but what I've experienced tells me otherwise.

I may be wrong but again, arrogant as I am--I've not often been wrong when it comes to these things.

Hell I've less than seldom been wrong.

I'm a fucking genius!


Hyperbolic enough for you yet?




Hillary is a saint, let the coronation (canonization?) begin!

[GwynnInTheHall]

Pretty funny.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ction-results/

Hehe, even I laughed.

[Hornsby]

I made it in because my wife got an email asking HER to attend, had I been with someone else who wasn't a sanders supporter I would have missed it all together as I received NO notification.

I have been told that after the Flip at County the Dem Party and the HRC campaign wen't all out to flip it back and they did.

You can think all you want it's legit, but what I've experienced tells me otherwise.

I may be wrong but again, arrogant as I am--I've not often been wrong when it comes to these things.

Hell I've less than seldom been wrong.

I'm a fucking genius!


Hyperbolic enough for you yet?




Hillary is a saint, let the coronation (canonization?) begin!

Naw, I've seen better hyperbole out of you...need to brush up on those skills.

I think that canonization usually requires a person to be dead for a certain amount of years, and while many folks would say that an OK requirement for the sainthood of Hillary, it's probably a bit premature.

On a serious note, you guys in Nevada really need to simplify the process...that's just ridiculous. You had the caucuses, the votes were taken, let them stand as is. We can argue supers another time.

[GwynnInTheHall]

Naw, I've seen better hyperbole out of you...need to brush up on those skills.

I think that canonization usually requires a person to be dead for a certain amount of years, and while many folks would say that an OK requirement for the sainthood of Hillary, it's probably a bit premature.

On a serious note, you guys in Nevada really need to simplify the process...that's just ridiculous. You had the caucuses, the votes were taken, let them stand as is. We can argue supers another time.

Like Will Rogers said:

I don't belong to an organized political party. I'm a Democrat.

At least I used to be, now I'm a Sandernista. :P

[heyelander]

Wait, I just watched the video... you all make political decisions the same way minor league baseball teams give away t-shirts? That's absurd.

[chancellor]

Wait, I just watched the video... you all make political decisions the same way minor league baseball teams give away t-shirts? That's absurd.

This could be sig worthy

[baldgriff]

I'm a fucking genius!


Hillary is a saint, let the coronation (canonization?) begin!

This will keep you from being sexist - which is good also!

[heyelander]

I don't understand. Can you explain? What video are you referring to and how does one make a political decision by firing an object with an air cannon into the bleachers?

Hornsby's video from post 621.

Apparently they decided rules for the NV convention based on which side could yell louder (literally) and sander's supporters think they yelled louder but the chairperson shot the t-shirt to the other side of the room (figuratively).

[heyelander]

Wait, but then who is the "you all"? Nevada Democrats or Hornsby/GitH?

I meant Nevada Democrats in general and GitH in particular... or maybe I have that backwards.

[GwynnInTheHall]

I meant Nevada Democrats in general and GitH in particular... or maybe I have that backwards.

Nevada Democrats, I just type louder, I don't yell it hurts the voice.

That was one of the issues a voice vote is to be followed by a standing division vote if it's to close to call.

But yeah, Hillary got all the cool freebies.......

[DMT]

On becoming anti-Sanders.

https://medium.com/@robinalperstein/on-becoming-anti-bernie-ee87943ae699#.7lh6rtq0h