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  • #151
    Originally posted by eldiablo505
    Ah, the elusive 17 year old vote.
    As I understand it 17 year olds could vote if they will be 18 on election day
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    Champagne for breakfast and a Sherman in my hand !
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    The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
    George Orwell, 1984
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    • #152
      Originally posted by eldiablo505
      Lol, yeah I was just joshin'. It really is illuminating to see the demographics at play here. It's encouraging in an otherwise dismal political atmosphere to see that some of the things that once made for total political non-starters --- like being a Jew or an atheist or a democratic socialist or gay or black or brown or a woman or anything "different" --- might be starting to disappear from voters' checklists.
      Part of the age difference must be attributed to sources of news -- I suspect older folks see more traditional media in newspapers (are they still around ?), magazines, and TV that are more focused on the establishment for lack of a better word, and would view Bernie as an extremist. Younger voters likely get more info online, where there is a lot more variety and sources of info, and more details available, and in general more acceptance of his ideas. Just a thought.
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      Champagne for breakfast and a Sherman in my hand !
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      The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
      George Orwell, 1984
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      • #153
        You cannot be extremist in a crowd. It has to be somewhere that few are willing to go.

        J
        Ad Astra per Aspera

        Oh. In that case, never mind. - Wonderboy

        GITH fails logic 101. - bryanbutler

        Bah...OJH caught me. - Pogues

        I don't know if you guys are being willfully ignorant, but... - Judge Jude

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        • #154
          Originally posted by onejayhawk View Post
          You cannot be extremist in a crowd. It has to be somewhere that few are willing to go.

          J
          The KKK are extremist and they dwell in crowds.

          Fucking Hodor.
          If I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011

          Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
          Martin Luther King, Jr.

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          • #155
            Originally posted by eldiablo505
            Right. ISIS aren't extremists because they're in a crowd. This kind of lame attempt at a semantic gotcha can't make sense even to you, can it?
            ISIS is extreme among political movements because they are not in a crowd. Indivuals inside the movement are not extreme.

            Originally posted by GwynnInTheHall View Post
            The KKK are extremist and they dwell in crowds.

            Fucking Hodor.
            Why pick on Democrats? Republicans had a thing against Communists back then. That made them wrong but not extreme.

            You claim the title of Hodor. Pass.

            J
            Ad Astra per Aspera

            Oh. In that case, never mind. - Wonderboy

            GITH fails logic 101. - bryanbutler

            Bah...OJH caught me. - Pogues

            I don't know if you guys are being willfully ignorant, but... - Judge Jude

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            • #156
              Originally posted by onejayhawk View Post
              ISIS is extreme among political movements because they are not in a crowd. Indivuals inside the movement are not extreme.



              Why pick on Democrats? Republicans had a thing against Communists back then. That made them wrong but not extreme.

              You claim the title of Hodor. Pass.

              J
              I am Hodor.
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              • #157
                At some point, Hillary ought to come up with a reasonable answer to questions about her Goldman-Sachs speeches.
                'Every other Secretary of State has done that' and 'they aren't giving me that much now' aren't really the best answers to a question she ought to know is coming.

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                • #158
                  Originally posted by nots View Post
                  At some point, Hillary ought to come up with a reasonable answer to questions about her Goldman-Sachs speeches.
                  'Every other Secretary of State has done that' and 'they aren't giving me that much now' aren't really the best answers to a question she ought to know is coming.
                  I guess, but I would think most people have decided what they think. I don't think there is anything she could say that would make me believe she is going to be one to try to limit the power of corporations and banks.
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                  Champagne for breakfast and a Sherman in my hand !
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                  The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
                  George Orwell, 1984
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                  • #159
                    Bernie's campaign is clearly making big business uncomfortable. He should announce Elizabeth Warren as running mate - and it might just well be over.......

                    Warren Wades Into Fight Over Wall Street
                    http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/election-2016-elizabeth-warren-defends-bernie-sanders-goldman-sachs-criticism
                    In an interview with IBT, the senator defended Bernie Sanders from criticism by Goldman Sachs — which has delivered big money to Hillary Clinton.
                    It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years and we must stop it.
                    Bill Clinton 1995, State of the Union Address

                    "When they go low - we go High" great motto - too bad it was a sack of bullshit. DNC election mantra

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                    • #160
                      Originally posted by eldiablo505
                      "I acknowledge that I am not the best person for the job. I immediately concede the race and throw my full support behind Bernie Sanders and his economic policy ideas. I am immediately donating all proceeds from speeches and any money otherwise gained from my relationship with big banking to support programs for housing the homeless."
                      Can I have some of what you are smoking...........
                      It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years and we must stop it.
                      Bill Clinton 1995, State of the Union Address

                      "When they go low - we go High" great motto - too bad it was a sack of bullshit. DNC election mantra

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                      • #161
                        Originally posted by nots View Post
                        At some point, Hillary ought to come up with a reasonable answer to questions about her Goldman-Sachs speeches.
                        'Every other Secretary of State has done that' and 'they aren't giving me that much now' aren't really the best answers to a question she ought to know is coming.
                        We both seem to have forgot she already answered the question:
                        So I represented New York, and I represented New York on 9/11 when we were attacked. Where were we attacked? We were attacked in downtown Manhattan where Wall Street is. I did spend a whole lot of time and effort helping them rebuild. That was good for New York. It was good for the economy, and it was a way to rebuke the terrorists who had attacked our country.

                        Wait, I think that was for a different time she was taking Wall Street money
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                        Champagne for breakfast and a Sherman in my hand !
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                        The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
                        George Orwell, 1984
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                        • #162
                          This here is the proof that she is owned by big banks and business. If your breaking ground you have a vested interest.
                          It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years and we must stop it.
                          Bill Clinton 1995, State of the Union Address

                          "When they go low - we go High" great motto - too bad it was a sack of bullshit. DNC election mantra

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                          • #163
                            Originally posted by baldgriff View Post
                            This here is the proof that she is owned by big banks and business. If your breaking ground you have a vested interest.
                            In other news, the world is not flat, water is wet, and the sun usually rises in the east..

                            J
                            Ad Astra per Aspera

                            Oh. In that case, never mind. - Wonderboy

                            GITH fails logic 101. - bryanbutler

                            Bah...OJH caught me. - Pogues

                            I don't know if you guys are being willfully ignorant, but... - Judge Jude

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                            • #164
                              and way to many people will blindly follow the HRC train without coming to terms with the fact that she is owned by big business.
                              It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years and we must stop it.
                              Bill Clinton 1995, State of the Union Address

                              "When they go low - we go High" great motto - too bad it was a sack of bullshit. DNC election mantra

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                              • #165
                                I cant vote for her.
                                It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years and we must stop it.
                                Bill Clinton 1995, State of the Union Address

                                "When they go low - we go High" great motto - too bad it was a sack of bullshit. DNC election mantra

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