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Originally posted by nots View PostI don’t know...that’s why I asked. You seem to be more well versed in political theory than I am.---------------------------------------------
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The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
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The Cato article is an interesting take - and I do appreciate that they suggest alternatives to fixing NYC's current issues. They are fantastic long term solutions that long term likely could help fix NYC's situation.
The suggestions that Cato makes are made from the perspective that NYC is "less competitive" in the marketplace due to their high property taxes and overly restrictive regulatory environment.
As such, I agree that NYC could become more competitive in the competition of drawing businesses to itself.
It is possible for me to be Libertarian and still have a different take on an individual transaction and see the benefits of the transaction to that community. I just dont view the $3Billion Credit as "pork" - I view it as a bid - one that very well may be necessitated to be competitive and offset NYC's other issues that the CATO institutes long term suggestions I would agree with.
Lets be honest - making the changes to the tax code and regulatory environment in NYC is going to be a very long term process.
Again the original purpose of this thread was to recount the inability of certain elected officials to understand that a Tax Credit is not actually Cash on the table.It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years and we must stop it.
Bill Clinton 1995, State of the Union Address
"When they go low - we go High" great motto - too bad it was a sack of bullshit. DNC election mantra
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Originally posted by baldgriff View PostThe Cato article is an interesting take - and I do appreciate that they suggest alternatives to fixing NYC's current issues. They are fantastic long term solutions that long term likely could help fix NYC's situation.
The suggestions that Cato makes are made from the perspective that NYC is "less competitive" in the marketplace due to their high property taxes and overly restrictive regulatory environment.
As such, I agree that NYC could become more competitive in the competition of drawing businesses to itself.
It is possible for me to be Libertarian and still have a different take on an individual transaction and see the benefits of the transaction to that community. I just dont view the $3Billion Credit as "pork" - I view it as a bid - one that very well may be necessitated to be competitive and offset NYC's other issues that the CATO institutes long term suggestions I would agree with.
Lets be honest - making the changes to the tax code and regulatory environment in NYC is going to be a very long term process.
Again the original purpose of this thread was to recount the inability of certain elected officials to understand that a Tax Credit is not actually Cash on the table.
Originally posted by baldgriff View Postso rather than some 25-50 thousand jobs bringing great amounts of business and capital to the area - people rejoice (led by AOC and group) because they "defeated" the big bad greed corporations and didnt give them the 3 billion tax break.
Have fun not working and just keep asking for policies to take money from the rich guy.---------------------------------------------
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The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
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Sorry - I figured most of the left leaning folks here would have already known about AOC's mis-speak. My apologies for not including the portion in there about how NYC should spend the offered Tax Credits now to fix the train system and teachers pay.
Just from a math perspective - NYC appeared to be getting a very good deal in order to capture the business and other business that would like come from the influx of those jobs and the income and sales taxes it would created. Thats the pragmatist in me speaking.... lol!It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years and we must stop it.
Bill Clinton 1995, State of the Union Address
"When they go low - we go High" great motto - too bad it was a sack of bullshit. DNC election mantra
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Originally posted by baldgriff View PostSorry - I figured most of the left leaning folks here would have already known about AOC's mis-speak. My apologies for not including the portion in there about how NYC should spend the offered Tax Credits now to fix the train system and teachers pay.
Just from a math perspective - NYC appeared to be getting a very good deal in order to capture the business and other business that would like come from the influx of those jobs and the income and sales taxes it would created. Thats the pragmatist in me speaking.... lol!
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It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years and we must stop it.
Bill Clinton 1995, State of the Union Address
"When they go low - we go High" great motto - too bad it was a sack of bullshit. DNC election mantra
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Originally posted by baldgriff View PostSorry - I figured most of the left leaning folks here would have already known about AOC's mis-speak. My apologies for not including the portion in there about how NYC should spend the offered Tax Credits now to fix the train system and teachers pay.
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Champagne for breakfast and a Sherman in my hand !
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The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
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Originally posted by The Feral Slasher View PostRegardless of weather I was aware of her complete comments (I wasn't), I can only respond to what you type in your message. Maybe you guys who are so fascinated by AOC should just start a thread about her, then when people go in there they understand what the discussion is actually about.
The actual fact that she had no understanding of how the deal was actually constructed or the NYC actually had $3Billion dollars just laying around to be allocated is truly mind blowing.It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years and we must stop it.
Bill Clinton 1995, State of the Union Address
"When they go low - we go High" great motto - too bad it was a sack of bullshit. DNC election mantra
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Originally posted by baldgriff View PostHey - I admitted I forgot to place that in the original text - sorry that your didnt know about her comments. I understand that you can only respond to what is there and from now on I will try to make sure that I place all necessary information in my original posts along with annotated references.
The actual fact that she had no understanding of how the deal was actually constructed or the NYC actually had $3Billion dollars just laying around to be allocated is truly mind blowing.If DMT didn't exist we would have to invent it. There has to be a weirdest thing. Once we have the concept weird, there has to be a weirdest thing. And DMT is simply it.
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Originally posted by DMT View PostMindblowing that a freshman Representative isn't perfect? Hmm, yet Trump makes similar blunders almost every day and it's business as usual.It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years and we must stop it.
Bill Clinton 1995, State of the Union Address
"When they go low - we go High" great motto - too bad it was a sack of bullshit. DNC election mantra
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Originally posted by baldgriff View PostHave I ever stated that he shouldnt be taken to task for it?? There are already plenty here taking care of that role - and yet none of you seemed willing to step up and state that AOC should be held responsible for not understanding the difference between a basic tax credit and actual cash.If DMT didn't exist we would have to invent it. There has to be a weirdest thing. Once we have the concept weird, there has to be a weirdest thing. And DMT is simply it.
- Terence McKenna
Bullshit is everywhere. - George Carlin (& Jon Stewart)
How old would you be if you didn't know how old you are? - Satchel Paige
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Originally posted by nots View PostYeah, if only someone one in here would occasionally post something negative about Trump.If DMT didn't exist we would have to invent it. There has to be a weirdest thing. Once we have the concept weird, there has to be a weirdest thing. And DMT is simply it.
- Terence McKenna
Bullshit is everywhere. - George Carlin (& Jon Stewart)
How old would you be if you didn't know how old you are? - Satchel Paige
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