Economic, taxes, and tariffs discussion

[revo]

Post has been deleted. Wonder who did that

You’re totally paranoid!

[nots]

You’re totally paranoid!

Another misread of the situation by you.

[nots]

Yeah, that was someone else. But nice try.

I’m not very good at copying posts, but maybe you could look up Post #438 in the ‘2017 Democratic Party and beyond’ thread and copy it for all of us.

[cardboardbox]

I’m not very good at copying posts, but maybe you could look up Post #438 in the ‘2017 Democratic Party and beyond’ thread and copy it for all of us.

this one?

Oh yeah, it was big. It was so big Dopey Donald had to come out and attack her.

[nots]

this one?

Yeah that was someone else. But nice try.

[revo]

Yeah that was someone else. But nice try.

Oh, that one! That gets another "oh puhhh-leeze." Teenwolf posted about how much she was going to move the election. Clearly it was in a discussion with him, he's the one who brought her up, and it was a not just a "let's post just to post." You're really reaching here.

Wait, are those 24000 US jobs or 24000 jobs worldwide?

Who knows? They're white collar jobs, and they already said they're going to shift production of the small-to-mid-sized models overseas. So does it matter? They're still Ford employees, and they still lost a billion dollars so far from the trade war. But keep trying to find a silver lining somewhere.

[nots]

LOL, put the shovel down. Positively Trump like response by you.
No need to try and find a silver lining. Lots of good news with the economy for those who aren’t blinded by hate.

[cardboardbox]

they already said they're going to shift production of the small-to-mid-sized models overseas.

which models are these?

[cardboardbox]

Oh, that one! That gets another "oh puhhh-leeze." Teenwolf posted about how much she was going to move the election. Clearly it was in a discussion with him, he's the one who brought her up, and it was a not just a "let's post just to post." You're really reaching here.

well he did find your post in which you commented that Trump had attacked Swift. After you said it wasnt you. Not sure how thats reaching...

[onejayhawk]

I heard on drive-time radio that after-tax pay was up over 6% year to year. That takes into account hourly pay increases, bonuses, and the tax reduction. While that is the first time I have run across actual numbers, it meshes.

J

[OaklandA's]

I heard on drive-time radio that after-tax pay was up over 6% year to year. That takes into account hourly pay increases, bonuses, and the tax reduction. While that is the first time I have run across actual numbers, it meshes.

Not sure what your source is for this, but according to the U.S. Department of Labor, from July 2017 to July 2018:
Wages grew by 2.7%
Inflation grew by 2.9%
Real Wages fell by 2 cents/hour

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2018/08/10/america-wage-growth-is-getting-wiped-out-entirely-by-inflation/?utm_term=.8121dd55cdcf

Where are you seeing this 6% increase in after-tax pay?

[revo]

which models are these?

Lincolns:

https://invests.com/2018/09/28/ford-ramping-up-production-in-china-to-ease-pain-from-trump-tariffs/

Focus, shifted from Mexico to China, and will no longer be sold in the US:

https://www.motor1.com/news/269269/ford-massive-layoffs-trump-tariffs/

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ford-executive-says-may-boost-production-china-avoid-212714891.html

Focus Active, was expected to be introduced and built in the US, plans cancelled:

https://www.motor1.com/news/265361/ford-focus-active-no-us/

Only models to be sold here are the Mustang and its pickups, SUVs and crossovers.

[onejayhawk]

Not sure what your source is for this, but according to the U.S. Department of Labor, from July 2017 to July 2018:
Wages grew by 2.7%
Inflation grew by 2.9%
Real Wages fell by 2 cents/hour

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2018/08/10/america-wage-growth-is-getting-wiped-out-entirely-by-inflation/?utm_term=.8121dd55cdcf

Where are you seeing this 6% increase in after-tax pay?

This was drive time, so leave out the real part, ie don't figure in inflation. They specifically included bonus pay.

I saw WP article. Exclusive of bonus money, wages have been flat since Vietnam ended. It's a little deceptive since they are dealing with averages and individals are moving up relative to the averages then dropping out.

J

[OaklandA's]

It's a little deceptive since they are dealing with averages and individuals are moving up relative to the averages then dropping out.

Sorry, but this is nonsense. If there is data to support your position, present it. But you can't just throw out real government data and replace it with your own imaginary results.

[Hi.I'm.Mandy]

This was drive time, so leave out the after-tax part, ie don't figure in inflation.

J

Thanks for explaining "after tax". I used to think it meant taxes were excluded, but now i know it is infation related.