Democratic Party 2017 and beyond

[B-Fly]

Wow, all these years, and I never realized not showing them was an option. Thanks for the heads up!

Me either. Cool! And now they're gone.

[B-Fly]

IMO, either Klobuchar or Bullock would represent the best opportunity for Democrats to win the WH.

Huge margin of victory for Klobuchar last night, far surpassing the votes for Smith in a rare situation where we saw two statewide Senate races play out on the same night, and doing very well in areas that Trump won in 2016. She just made a very compelling case for the nomination, IMO.

[nots]

Huge margin of victory for Klobuchar last night, far surpassing the votes for Smith in a rare situation where we saw two statewide Senate races play out on the same night, and doing very well in areas that Trump won in 2016. She just made a very compelling case for the nomination, IMO.

I agree.
On another note (and this will rankle a lot of folks in here), I think Elizabeth Warren is not going to be the nominee. In 2012, she underperformed Obama by 9% in Mass.. Last night, she got about 125,000 less votes than GOP Gov. Charlie Baker did in his race. She is well regarded by liberal donors and liberal activists, but she doesn’t do as well with liberal voters. She will have a lot of money and if she wins NH, she can stay in it for awhile, but she won’t win. If you want a liberal white woman, you will go with Gillibrand. If you want a liberal minority woman, you will go with Harris. Last night was the beginning of the end for her.

[Hornsby]

Huge margin of victory for Klobuchar last night, far surpassing the votes for Smith in a rare situation where we saw two statewide Senate races play out on the same night, and doing very well in areas that Trump won in 2016. She just made a very compelling case for the nomination, IMO.

As a Minnesotan, and someone who's covered Amy every step of the way, I'd have to disagree. She's a terrific person, and learns quickly, but I just don't think that she has the gravitas to run for the big office. Maybe start as VP, but the big chair is a huge step.

People love here here, and the main reason that she blew Tina Smith's totals out of the water is that Smith is essentially a party functionary for a large part of here career. And she just didn't have the name recognition that Klobuchar has.

That said, I'm happy to be in a very blue, progressive state.

[TranaGreg]

for what it's worth, just wanted to call this out ... with all the talk of nationalism and insularity, this is really good to see ...

[revo]

Steny Hoyer throws his hat in the ring for Speaker

[Bernie Brewer]

On a odd/lighter note: Geez, the Dems really have to run better candidates!! A dead guy who while alive self-described himself as a “pimp” who (embarrassingly) ran as a Republican beat his very much alive Dem opponent for a state house seat in Nevada.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/07/politics/dennis-hof-brothel-nevada-state-assembly/index.html

[Sour Masher]

I agree.
On another note (and this will rankle a lot of folks in here), I think Elizabeth Warren is not going to be the nominee. In 2012, she underperformed Obama by 9% in Mass.. Last night, she got about 125,000 less votes than GOP Gov. Charlie Baker did in his race. She is well regarded by liberal donors and liberal activists, but she doesn’t do as well with liberal voters. She will have a lot of money and if she wins NH, she can stay in it for awhile, but she won’t win. If you want a liberal white woman, you will go with Gillibrand. If you want a liberal minority woman, you will go with Harris. Last night was the beginning of the end for her.

Yeah, I think this is dead on.

[Sour Masher]

On a odd/lighter note: Geez, the Dems really have to run better candidates!! A dead guy who while alive self-described himself as a “pimp” who (embarrassingly) ran as a Republican beat his very much alive Dem opponent for a state house seat in Nevada.

It really hit home for me this election that in some places, ALL that matters is the letter by the name to most folks. There are a few cases where I really hoped the measure of the candidate would be taken, on both sides, and people would flip, but it didn't happen.

[Bernie Brewer]

It really hit home for me this election that in some places, ALL that matters is the letter by the name to most folks. There are a few cases where I really hoped the measure of the candidate would be taken, on both sides, and people would flip, but it didn't happen.

For some reason I can’t get the link to work. But you’re right on being disappointed. I was the same when I saw the three (Collins, Menendez and the Cali guy) “winners” from last night. The Bunny ranch owner winning while dead is just plain silly.

[cardboardbox]

It really hit home for me this election that in some places, ALL that matters is the letter by the name to most folks. There are a few cases where I really hoped the measure of the candidate would be taken, on both sides, and people would flip, but it didn't happen.

yeah I thought John James was a great candidate but he didnt get all that close to unseating the entrenched democrat. Maybe he could have in 2010 or 2014 but not this year.

[cardboardbox]

I agree.
On another note (and this will rankle a lot of folks in here), I think Elizabeth Warren is not going to be the nominee. In 2012, she underperformed Obama by 9% in Mass.. Last night, she got about 125,000 less votes than GOP Gov. Charlie Baker did in his race. She is well regarded by liberal donors and liberal activists, but she doesn’t do as well with liberal voters. She will have a lot of money and if she wins NH, she can stay in it for awhile, but she won’t win. If you want a liberal white woman, you will go with Gillibrand. If you want a liberal minority woman, you will go with Harris. Last night was the beginning of the end for her.

I have long expected her to not be the nominee but I'm still hoping and praying she is.

[cardboardbox]

Steny Hoyer throws his hat in the ring for Speaker

[DMT]

Hoyer? Pass

[B-Fly]

I think the Democrats should honor Jim Clyburn with the Speakership. Yes, he's also old, but he's tough to demonize.