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  • Mithrandir
    All Star
    • Jan 2011
    • 9346

    Originally posted by Gregg
    If Trump is removed from office, do you think the Dems can overcome Pence?
    Million to 1 shot at that...million to 1..maybe a billion to 1.
    "I lingered round them, under that benign sky: watched the moths fluttering among the heath and harebells, listened to the soft wind breathing through the grass, and wondered how any one could ever imagine unquiet slumbers for the sleepers in that quiet earth."

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    • Ken
      Administrator
      • Feb 2016
      • 10977

      Originally posted by Mithrandir
      Million to 1 shot at that...million to 1..maybe a billion to 1.
      It's improbable, but you are off by many, many orders of magnitude.

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      • Gregg
        Hall of Famer
        • Jan 2011
        • 33085

        Originally posted by Mithrandir
        Million to 1 shot at that...million to 1..maybe a billion to 1.
        I will take that bet for $20.00 dollars.

        Not because I think I will win, I just like the odds.

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        • Ken
          Administrator
          • Feb 2016
          • 10977

          Originally posted by Gregg
          I will take that bet for $20.00 dollars.

          Not because I think I will win, I just like the odds.
          Agree. I suspect the realistic number is between 10-1 and 100-1

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          • nots
            Journeyman
            • Jan 2011
            • 2907

            Originally posted by Ken
            Agree. I suspect the realistic number is between 10-1 and 100-1
            FWIW, odds.com has an 18% chance of Trump not finishing his term, though I believe that includes quitting or dying.

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            • Mithrandir
              All Star
              • Jan 2011
              • 9346

              Originally posted by Ken
              Agree. I suspect the realistic number is between 10-1 and 100-1
              Excuse me but.....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
              "I lingered round them, under that benign sky: watched the moths fluttering among the heath and harebells, listened to the soft wind breathing through the grass, and wondered how any one could ever imagine unquiet slumbers for the sleepers in that quiet earth."

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              • Ken
                Administrator
                • Feb 2016
                • 10977

                Originally posted by Mithrandir
                Excuse me but.....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
                You're excused. Now back to reality... (there's quite a few sites that are looking into this same thing, a google search isn't hard).

                Didn't you quit fantasy since you couldn't compete on a statistical level? You might want to consider staying away from statistical discussions entirely if you honestly think 1:1MM is realistic. People have trouble grasping large numbers. Suffice to say you aren't close.
                Last edited by Ken; 12-05-2019, 05:16 PM.

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                • Kevin Seitzer
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                  • Jan 2011
                  • 9175

                  Originally posted by nots
                  FWIW, odds.com has an 18% chance of Trump not finishing his term, though I believe that includes quitting or dying.
                  That seems high.

                  What are the odds of a 73-year-old man (with some cardiovascular issues but presumably the best medical care in the world) dying over the next 13 months? I found a site that quoted 3% chance for the typical 73yo male. I can't believe Trump has a 15% chance of being removed from office or resigning under the threat of such.
                  "Jesus said to them, 'Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are going into the kingdom of God ahead of you.'"

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                  • Ken
                    Administrator
                    • Feb 2016
                    • 10977

                    Originally posted by Mithrandir
                    Excuse me but.....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
                    Not sure if you are trolling here like you trolled us in the JDM thread, but if not, you should be betting your house on Trump finishing his term, since it is free money if the true odds are even 1/100th of the scale you think they are.

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                    • Kevin Seitzer
                      All Star
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 9175

                      How do I interpret the Betfair numbers?
                      "Jesus said to them, 'Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are going into the kingdom of God ahead of you.'"

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                      • Ken
                        Administrator
                        • Feb 2016
                        • 10977

                        Originally posted by Kevin Seitzer
                        How do I interpret the Betfair numbers?
                        5.3 = bet $1, get $5.30 back if the event occurs, ~9/2 odds
                        1.22 = bet $1, get $1.22 back, ~2/9 odds

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                        • Kevin Seitzer
                          All Star
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 9175

                          Originally posted by Ken
                          5.3 = bet $1, get $5.30 back if the event occurs, ~9/2 odds
                          1.22 = bet $1, get $1.22 back, ~2/9 odds
                          Thanks. That seems high. I think your estimates in the 1%-10% range seem more accurate.
                          "Jesus said to them, 'Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are going into the kingdom of God ahead of you.'"

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                          • Mithrandir
                            All Star
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 9346

                            Originally posted by Ken
                            Not sure if you are trolling here like you trolled us in the JDM thread, but if not, you should be betting your house on Trump finishing his term, since it is free money if the true odds are even 1/100th of the scale you think they are.

                            https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plu...et/1.129133401
                            What does Betfair know about politics? Exactly how did they come to those odds?
                            "I lingered round them, under that benign sky: watched the moths fluttering among the heath and harebells, listened to the soft wind breathing through the grass, and wondered how any one could ever imagine unquiet slumbers for the sleepers in that quiet earth."

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                            • Ken
                              Administrator
                              • Feb 2016
                              • 10977

                              Originally posted by Mithrandir
                              What does Betfair know about politics? Exactly how did they come to those odds?
                              Betfair doesn't have to know, it's a market. People put up their own money betting on it, and the market drives the odds.

                              But you shouldn't have to care about any of that. If you truly think the true odds are 1:1MM, you should be rushing to the bank to pull out all your disposable money and put it on the line. After all, there's no reasonable risk of losing it.

                              Put another way, a professional athlete who has banked $100 million in his career should be so confident that he would be willing to put up half his career earnings for a return of $50. Think about how certain something has to be for someone to do that, and then think again about the odds.

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                              • Judge Jude
                                MVP
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 11126

                                "If you truly think the true odds are 1:1MM, you should be rushing to the bank to pull out all your disposable money and put it on the line."

                                well, unless you are proposing he take a flight across the pond, you are recommending that someone engage in illegal activity here in the U.S.
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