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Last edited by Sour Masher; 09-18-2018, 01:22 PM.
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Originally posted by gcstomp View PostBTW, to respond to someone, with a canned response of definition of a branch, while ignoring reality of what exists, again, disingenuous.
I'll also add that there's numerous cases where justices - both "conservative" and "liberal" have voted against what their nominators would have liked. John Roberts is the most obvious, but Sonia Sotomayer also did so in a lesser known case, but still important.I'm just here for the baseball.
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Originally posted by Sour Masher View PostI never said he is a dictator, because, thankfully, our form of government is not a dictatorship. I think he wants to be, though. He wants to be more than CEO, because a CEO is beholden to stock holders and a board. They have checks and balances too. If we let him, he'd take as much control as we allowed. He doesn't respect, or I suspect, fully understand, how our Republic works. He is not a student of history, he does not think our system of government is bigger than he is, or smarter, or better. He thinks he is smarter than our generals, and our experts and scientists, and our founding fathers.
- wants to be a Dictator
- will become a Dictator
- could become a Dictator
- etc etc etc ad nauseum from various news and journalistic outlets over the last 18 months it is stupid.
Honestly - the only way you get a Dictator (other than a coup) is that the people cede their responsibility to the government and then allow one person to run it all. The day we as a country cede all power to one person is the day this country dies.It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years and we must stop it.
Bill Clinton 1995, State of the Union Address
"When they go low - we go High" great motto - too bad it was a sack of bullshit. DNC election mantra
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Originally posted by Teenwolf View PostThis is what's being overlooked. Republicans knew Kavanaugh would have these problems.
Supporting evidence #1: Mitch McConnell fighting against putting up Kavanaugh is a big hint that McConnell knew about his past transgressions before nomination, or he possibly knew about the letter.
Supporting evidence #2: In response to the allegations, they came up with a list of 65 women who knew Kavanaugh and provided character support... but they came up with the list less than 24 hours after the allegations came out. I doubt that it's physically possible to co-ordinate such a large list of character witnesses in such a short time span. They knew months in advance, IMO.
as for McConnell, he knew that Kavanaugh could be more easily attacked on Roe v Wade and Presidential executive powers than the others. McConnell's main job is to keep the Senate majority in November, so all he cares about is seeing the most milquetoast conservative nominated.
doesn't my explanation make a lot more sense? #Occamsrazor
P.S. Not to tell you that Santa Claus doesn't exist, but media outlets have obituaries already written about thousands of famous people - sometimes decades in advance of their deaths. they even get quotes from famous friends who stipulate that the quote can appear in the obit. maybe you pictured reporters desperately scrambling around to develop background material when someone like Michael Jackson dies. yeah, not so much.finished 10th in this 37th yr in 11-team-only NL 5x5
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Originally posted by Judge Jude View Postif you thought that ANY SCOTUS nominee from either party would not have a pro forma letter on hand as "break glass in case of emergency" months before a vote, regardless of a candidate's background, then you are being hopelessly naive. to not have such a letter at the ready would be political malfeasance. I trust that, even if it hadn't occurred to you before, that you would agree once I point it out.
as for McConnell, he knew that Kavanaugh could be more easily attacked on Roe v Wade and Presidential executive powers than the others. McConnell's main job is to keep the Senate majority in November, so all he cares about is seeing the most milquetoast conservative nominated.
doesn't my explanation make a lot more sense? #Occamsrazor
P.S. Not to tell you that Santa Claus doesn't exist, but media outlets have obituaries already written about thousands of famous people - sometimes decades in advance of their deaths. they even get quotes from famous friends who stipulate that the quote can appear in the obit. maybe you pictured reporters desperately scrambling around to develop background material when someone like Michael Jackson dies. yeah, not so much.Larry David was once being heckled, long before any success. Heckler says "I'm taking my dog over to fuck your mother, weekly." Larry responds "I hate to tell you this, but your dog isn't liking it."
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Originally posted by Teenwolf View PostYour condescension is pretty over the top. Not worthy of response.
He did not even mention Anita Hill and the track record of these hearings.
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Originally posted by Judge Jude View Postif you thought that ANY SCOTUS nominee from either party would not have a pro forma letter on hand as "break glass in case of emergency" months before a vote, regardless of a candidate's background, then you are being hopelessly naive. to not have such a letter at the ready would be political malfeasance. I trust that, even if it hadn't occurred to you before, that you would agree once I point it out.
as for McConnell, he knew that Kavanaugh could be more easily attacked on Roe v Wade and Presidential executive powers than the others. McConnell's main job is to keep the Senate majority in November, so all he cares about is seeing the most milquetoast conservative nominated.
doesn't my explanation make a lot more sense? #Occamsrazor
P.S. Not to tell you that Santa Claus doesn't exist, but media outlets have obituaries already written about thousands of famous people - sometimes decades in advance of their deaths. they even get quotes from famous friends who stipulate that the quote can appear in the obit. maybe you pictured reporters desperately scrambling around to develop background material when someone like Michael Jackson dies. yeah, not so much.
The letter of 65 supporting witnesses was clearly prepared well beforehand. It WAS in fact released prematurely, because as I mentioned they released the support letter without contacting those supporters, and now half of those supporters are not responding to media requests and some have backpedaled. So yes, the letter was released without contacting the supporting witnesses to see that they still support him after the allegations.
Its come out there are now 6 witnesses ready to discredit Kavanaugh for protecting another judge with sexual abuse problems. They're afraid of career retribution.
So there ya go. Yes, all the support was collected well before the trial. Yes, releasing it less than 24 hours after the allegations surfaced was a mistake because they couldn't verify those supporters.
Seems like the letter of supporting witnesses was tossed out a bit too early, eh?Larry David was once being heckled, long before any success. Heckler says "I'm taking my dog over to fuck your mother, weekly." Larry responds "I hate to tell you this, but your dog isn't liking it."
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I think the Republicans need to get into a room and just say, "Let's give the Democrats Kavanaugh." I see him as being a sacrificial lamb for Franken, who many Democrats have come out after his resignation and said he should have been so hasty.
Perhaps after that, leader in the two parties can come together and say, "Let's be done with this idiocy. Let's start working together, like we are suppose too."
A man can dream."Looks like I picked a bad day to give up sniffing glue.
- Steven McCrosky (Lloyd Bridges) in Airplane
i have epiphanies like that all the time. for example i was watching a basketball game today and realized pom poms are like a pair of tits. there's 2 of them. they're round. they shake. women play with them. thus instead of having two, cheerleaders have four boobs.
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Originally posted by In the Corn View PostI think the Republicans need to get into a room and just say, "Let's give the Democrats Kavanaugh." I see him as being a sacrificial lamb for Franken, who many Democrats have come out after his resignation and said he should have been so hasty.
Perhaps after that, leader in the two parties can come together and say, "Let's be done with this idiocy. Let's start working together, like we are suppose too."
A man can dream.I'm just here for the baseball.
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Originally posted by chancellor View PostI disagree. If the GOP caves into this re-run of Kafka's The Trial and sacrifices a man of whose innocence is of little doubt, they're morally lower than Trump. At this point, McConnell simply needs to ram this to a vote as quickly as possible. If the Left wants political war, the solution is not to surrender but rather to win.Larry David was once being heckled, long before any success. Heckler says "I'm taking my dog over to fuck your mother, weekly." Larry responds "I hate to tell you this, but your dog isn't liking it."
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Originally posted by In the Corn View PostI think the Republicans need to get into a room and just say, "Let's give the Democrats Kavanaugh." I see him as being a sacrificial lamb for Franken, who many Democrats have come out after his resignation and said he should have been so hasty.
Perhaps after that, leader in the two parties can come together and say, "Let's be done with this idiocy. Let's start working together, like we are suppose too."
A man can dream."When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean - neither more nor less."
"The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things."
"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master - that's all."
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Ugh, you guys defending Kavanaugh make me sick. There's little doubt this guy is a scumbag. Encouraging his rushed confirmation is just inexcusable.If DMT didn't exist we would have to invent it. There has to be a weirdest thing. Once we have the concept weird, there has to be a weirdest thing. And DMT is simply it.
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Originally posted by DMT View PostThere's little doubt this guy is a scumbag.
Encouraging his rushed confirmation is just inexcusable."When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean - neither more nor less."
"The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things."
"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master - that's all."
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Originally posted by senorsheep View PostIf there's credible evidence that the guy is an obvious scumbag, I'm not aware of it.
Wow, that's a world class Reading Comprehension 101 fail. I said exactly the opposite of "rush the confirmation." I said "Swear her in and let her speak."If DMT didn't exist we would have to invent it. There has to be a weirdest thing. Once we have the concept weird, there has to be a weirdest thing. And DMT is simply it.
- Terence McKenna
Bullshit is everywhere. - George Carlin (& Jon Stewart)
How old would you be if you didn't know how old you are? - Satchel Paige
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