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  • Originally posted by senorsheep View Post
    Vox is clearly left, doesn't pretend otherwise, and provides quality reporting, opinion, and analysis from that perspective. If you believe that the best way to achieve politically balanced thought is to engage the best thinkers and the best arguments from each side, then Vox is a good choice from the progressive side. They're OK with me.
    Me too. I agree with B-Fly's differentiation between Vox and HuffPost. It isn't a problem to me that we have editorial content that is informed by political ideology. Vox does not try to hide that as Fox does behind than comical "fair and balanced" motto. The problem is specious support of sketchy sources, misinformation, and clickbaity dog-whistling, which is what a lot of folks seem to gravitate toward. That is a problem, as is the fact that a lot of folks ignore politics entirely. Kim Kardashian's latest selfie gets more attention than most of the stuff folks here focus on.

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    • Originally posted by DMT View Post
      so what would you recommend as a similar source from the conservative side? I generally only check Drudge so I'm mostly exposed to garbage.
      WSJ, Daily Wire, aren’t too bad. But Drudge is garabage and why any liberal would go there astounds me. Most moderate conservatives (if there is such a thing) don’t watch Fox or read Drudge or Beirbrat. I know that I never have. Not do I listen to Rush or Alex Jones.
      I know in my heart that man is good. That what is right will always eventually triumph and there is purpose and worth to each and every life.

      Ronald Reagan

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      • Originally posted by Bernie Brewer View Post
        WSJ, Daily Wire, aren’t too bad. But Drudge is garabage and why any liberal would go there astounds me. Most moderate conservatives (if there is such a thing) don’t watch Fox or read Drudge or Beirbrat. I know that I never have. Not do I listen to Rush or Alex Jones.
        most of the links on Drudge go to what we would consider MSM websites.
        "The Times found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Mr. Biden, beyond the hugs, kisses and touching that women previously said made them uncomfortable." -NY Times

        "For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, you’ve got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she’s talking about is real, whether or not she forgets facts" - Joe Biden

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        • Originally posted by Bernie Brewer View Post
          WSJ, Daily Wire, aren’t too bad. But Drudge is garabage and why any liberal would go there astounds me. Most moderate conservatives (if there is such a thing) don’t watch Fox or read Drudge or Beirbrat. I know that I never have. Not do I listen to Rush or Alex Jones.
          The problem with WSJ is that you need to subscribe to read any article or op-ed. I wish there was something better. RealClearPolitics is more of a news and views compiler, but they curate toward the conservative side and will often link to conservative analysis that is at least moderately cogent and thoughtful.

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          • Originally posted by cardboardbox View Post
            most of the links on Drudge go to what we would consider MSM websites.
            It's heavily curated to drive a nativist narrative.

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            • Originally posted by Bernie Brewer View Post
              WSJ, Daily Wire, aren’t too bad. But Drudge is garabage and why any liberal would go there astounds me. Most moderate conservatives (if there is such a thing) don’t watch Fox or read Drudge or Beirbrat. I know that I never have. Not do I listen to Rush or Alex Jones.
              I would agree that Daily Wire is pretty good. I like Shapiro as he is willing to call out Trump when he screws the pooch, plus he states he didnt vote for him. I dont agree with him on everything, but I like him.

              I hardly ever pay attention to Fox - never read Drudge or Brietbart. A beer brat sounds really good though!
              It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years and we must stop it.
              Bill Clinton 1995, State of the Union Address


              "When they go low - we go High" great motto - too bad it was a sack of bullshit. DNC election mantra

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              • Originally posted by B-Fly View Post
                It's heavily curated to drive a nativist narrative.
                it definitely has a narrative, but I fail to see how the majority of the links that go to MSM websites are garbage.
                "The Times found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Mr. Biden, beyond the hugs, kisses and touching that women previously said made them uncomfortable." -NY Times

                "For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, you’ve got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she’s talking about is real, whether or not she forgets facts" - Joe Biden

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                • Originally posted by cardboardbox View Post
                  it definitely has a narrative, but I fail to see how the majority of the links that go to MSM websites are garbage.
                  Here's Drudge from top-down as of now:


                  STORMY IN A D-CUP!
                  ARRESTED DURING SHOW
                  'FONDLED' UNDERCOVER COPS


                  TRUMP STORMS LONDON...

                  As popular as Obama in middle of first term...

                  85% approval with Republicans...

                  Don't kiss the queen!

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                  • Originally posted by DMT View Post
                    so what would you recommend as a similar source from the conservative side? I generally only check Drudge so I'm mostly exposed to garbage.
                    For a libertarian slant, reason.com is the place to go. A conservative/libertarian aggregator site is instapundit.com; the lead guy there is Glenn Reynolds who also writes an opinion piece in USA Today 1-2 times a week. Glenn and his wife used to run the whole show, but it got so big and popular that he's added other contributors. Ed Driscoll (who has his own site) is a pretty solid conservative contributor, Sarah Hoyt is a sci-fi/fantasy author with unique views, and Stephen Green is interesting. Instapundit has a couple of others - Austin Bay comes immediately to mind - who provide a very pro-military POV, but are well to the right of me. The Daily Caller has the best contacts in Congress for a conservative blog, but I'm not as enamored with their opinion pieces. For my reading, on pure conservative opinion, powerline.com is a much better, well-written blog.
                    I'm just here for the baseball.

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                    • Originally posted by B-Fly View Post
                      Here's Drudge from top-down as of now:
                      STORMY IN A D-CUP!
                      ARRESTED DURING SHOW
                      links to https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/12/stor...-avenatti.html with headline: "Porn star Stormy Daniels arrested while performing in Ohio strip club"

                      narrative yes, garbage? The subject is but other news outlets have stories on the same subject...
                      "The Times found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Mr. Biden, beyond the hugs, kisses and touching that women previously said made them uncomfortable." -NY Times

                      "For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, you’ve got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she’s talking about is real, whether or not she forgets facts" - Joe Biden

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                      • Thanks I'll check them out.
                        If DMT didn't exist we would have to invent it. There has to be a weirdest thing. Once we have the concept weird, there has to be a weirdest thing. And DMT is simply it.
                        - Terence McKenna

                        Bullshit is everywhere. - George Carlin (& Jon Stewart)

                        How old would you be if you didn't know how old you are? - Satchel Paige

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                        • Originally posted by DMT View Post
                          so what would you recommend as a similar source from the conservative side? I generally only check Drudge so I'm mostly exposed to garbage.
                          The American Conservative
                          National Review - specifically Jonah Goldberg
                          Bloomberg Opinion has some good conservative writers - Ramesh Ponnuru
                          The Economist
                          Reason
                          "When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean - neither more nor less."
                          "The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things."
                          "The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master - that's all."

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                          • Originally posted by chancellor View Post
                            For a libertarian slant, reason.com is the place to go. A conservative/libertarian aggregator site is instapundit.com; the lead guy there is Glenn Reynolds who also writes an opinion piece in USA Today 1-2 times a week. Glenn and his wife used to run the whole show, but it got so big and popular that he's added other contributors. Ed Driscoll (who has his own site) is a pretty solid conservative contributor, Sarah Hoyt is a sci-fi/fantasy author with unique views, and Stephen Green is interesting. Instapundit has a couple of others - Austin Bay comes immediately to mind - who provide a very pro-military POV, but are well to the right of me. The Daily Caller has the best contacts in Congress for a conservative blog, but I'm not as enamored with their opinion pieces. For my reading, on pure conservative opinion, powerline.com is a much better, well-written blog.
                            I respect you so went to read me some Powerline.com and I got a site that sells power accessories, lol.

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                            • Originally posted by B-Fly View Post
                              I respect you so went to read me some Powerline.com and I got a site that sells power accessories, lol.
                              that's what qualifies as conservative thought leadership these days...

                              I'm not expecting to grow flowers in the desert...

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                              • Originally posted by baldgriff View Post
                                I would agree that Daily Wire is pretty good. I like Shapiro as he is willing to call out Trump when he screws the pooch, plus he states he didnt vote for him. I dont agree with him on everything, but I like him.

                                I hardly ever pay attention to Fox - never read Drudge or Brietbart. A beer brat sounds really good though!




                                If that's some sort of personal attack due to my avatar, I accept it! BTW, Nick Bierbrat never pitched for the Brewers. Seems like it would've been a natural fit!
                                I know in my heart that man is good. That what is right will always eventually triumph and there is purpose and worth to each and every life.

                                Ronald Reagan

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