Week 6 Discussion Thread

[Judge Jude]

props to NFL Network for coming back from the last key break to admit that maybe the last pick "wasn't Eli's fault" was a reach. It was a very high throw of the sort that,well, becomes an INT if your [receiver] can't haul it in.

my theory is that because Eli is a little brother and he looks like he's 12 years old, everyone wants to look out for the poor kid who has about $50M in the bank.

EDIT: And to Eli's credit, he called the pass 'six inches too high' after the game.....

UPDATE: From Elias: The Giants fell to 0-6 in Chicago on Thursday as Eli Manning threw his 13th, 14th and 15th interceptions of the season. Only one other quarterback in NFL history has started and lost each of his team's first six games of a season while throwing at least 15 interceptions. That was Eddie LeBaron, who started and lost each of the first six games in Cowboys' team history, in 1960; he threw 17 picks in those six games.

Manning (0-6) and Ben Roethlisberger (0-4) are the only quarterbacks ever to start a season 0-3 or worse after winning multiple Super Bowls. Only two quarterbacks who started and won a Super Bowl more than once lost their first two starts in a season: Terry Bradshaw (1981) and Troy Aikman (Games 1 and 4 in 2000).

[Trautdiggity]

props to NFL Network for coming back from the last key break to admit that maybe the last pick "wasn't Eli's fault" was a reach. It was a very high throw of the sort that,well, becomes an INT if your rookie can't haul it in.

my theory is that because Eli is a little brother and he looks like he's 12 years old, everyone wants to look out for the poor kid who has about $50M in the bank.

EDIT: And to Eli's credit, he called the pass 'six inches too high' after the game.....

I thought the same thing. Everyone tries to give Eli a pass on a bunch of his mistakes but he gets far too much leniency. For every ball a receiver bobbles that gets picked or route a receiver misses there is at least one forced throw that shouldn't have been made. Worse than that there are the stupid Eli moments he's lucky don't become turnovers like that shovel pass to Scott when he was under massive pressure

[revo]

props to NFL Network for coming back from the last key break to admit that maybe the last pick "wasn't Eli's fault" was a reach. It was a very high throw of the sort that,well, becomes an INT if your rookie can't haul it in.

Brandon Myers is a 5-year vet who had 80 catches last year. Still wasn't a great pass, but these bad passes and near misses are becoming typical....

[revo]

- Just a few days after complaining about his lack of participation in a Jets win, TE Kellen Winslow Jr. is suspended 4 games for violating the league's drug policy.

- David Wilson now fears his neck injury could be "season ending." Coach Tom Coughlin believes Wilson will be out a month. In either case, it's probably safe to drop Wilson from your roster. What a friggin' disappointment.

[revo]

Interesting:

According to SI's Greg Bedard, Dwayne Bowe has been a "big problem" for the Chiefs because he's no longer able to beat man coverage.
Bedard is plugged-in around the NFL and does his own film reviews. "Not sure what has happened to him," writes Bedard, "but he lacks explosion and can’t beat man coverage anymore. Defenses don’t fear him at all." We personally haven't noticed anything different about Bowe this season, other than the fact that Alex Smith isn't even trying to get the ball outside the hashmarks. Still, it's a noteworthy take from a pretty trusted observer.
Source: SI.com
Oct 11 - 8:17 PM

[chancellor]

I don't care if I were a player, reporter, coach or gerbil, you couldn't get me inside the Bucs locker room for anything. 3rd case of MRSA? For a team with NFL level resources? Disgraceful.

[Pogues]

- David Wilson now fears his neck injury could be "season ending." Coach Tom Coughlin believes Wilson will be out a month. In either case, it's probably safe to drop Wilson from your roster. What a friggin' disappointment.

It seems to me his play was enough to be "season ending."

[revo]

It seems to me his play was enough to be "season ending."

It certainly was enough to make the Giants season "season ending."

[revo]

Gronk - where does he rank for rest of year production among TE's? He was being drafted pretty early pre-season, early enough to suggest the projections had him #2 behind Graham once he started playing. On the one hand, Brady needs a target. On the other hand, the Pats offense has been lacking.

Gronk now expected to miss this week and next.

In terms of PPG, he should be a Top 5 TE the rest of the year, but obviously that may be too late for those owners who drafted him expecting to be the #2 TE in total points scored. In those terms, he's not even a top shelf TE, so those who paid a 3rd or 4th rounder for him got badly burned.

[revo]

Calvin Johnson is active today.

[revo]

Tampa Mike and Stevie Johnson both OUT today.

[Trautdiggity]

I've now seen two teams with the ball inside the five, rush four times and get stuffed. First it was Buffalo now Baltimore. Here's a hint offensive coordinators: if you're getting stuffed, run something different. Maybe a playaction boot, but with Cincy and Green Bay loading up on the run you can't keep banging your head against the wall there.

On another note, Eddie Lacy looks legit out there as does Zac Stacy.

[Trautdiggity]

Also the loss of James Jones is really hurting Aaron Rodgers right now. Jarret Boykin is finding lots of space and doing very little with it.

[Trautdiggity]

Bad to worse for Rodgers and the Pack, Matt Elam laid a big hit on Randall Cobb's right knee and Cobb went down grabbing it immediately. He needed to be helped off the field and it does not look good for him to continue in this game and maybe even worse than that. It's going to half so it's TBD at this point.

[revo]

Bad to worse for Rodgers and the Pack, Matt Elam laid a big hit on Randall Cobb's right knee and Cobb went down grabbing it immediately. He needed to be helped off the field and it does not look good for him to continue in this game and maybe even worse than that. It's going to half so it's TBD at this point.

Carted off to the locker room. Ugh.