Week 16 discussion thread

[Judge Jude]

entering Sunday

AFC
Who's in:
AFC South champ Texans
AFC West champ Broncos
AFC East champ Patriots
Ravens

Who can get in this weekend:
Colts with a win OR Steelers loss (and possibly if Bengals loss re strength of victory)

Bengals with a win

What else:
Ravens get division title with a win

Texans get No. 1 seed with a win, OR Patriots loss AND Broncos loss

Texans get bye with Patriots loss OR Broncos loss

Broncos get bye with a win AND Patriots loss

Down the road:
Broncos clinch bye with 2 wins

Patriots clinch at least No 3 seed with 2 wins

Steelers clinch playoffs with 2 wins

Dolphins clinch playoffs with 2 wins; AND Steelers beat Bengals today and lose next week; and Bengals also lose next week; AND Jets lose 1 (so there's a chance!)

.................

NFC
Who's in:
NFC South champ Falcons, with a bye
NFC North champ Packers
49ers

Who can get in this weekend:
Seahawks with a win, OR Bears loss AND Vikings loss AND Redskins loss

Redskins with a win, AND Giants loss AND Bears loss AND Vikings loss

Giants with a win, AND Redskins loss AND Cowboys loss AND Bears loss AND Vikings loss

What else:
49ers get division title with a win

49ers get bye with a win AND Packers loss

Down the road:
49ers get bye with 2 wins

Redskins OR Cowboys win NFC East with 2 wins

Seahawks make playoffs with 1 win

Giants make playoffs with 2 wins

Vikings need 2 wins, AND Giants loss OR 2 Seahawks losses

Bears need 2 wins, AND Giants and Vikings lose 1; OR Giants OR Vikings lose 1 AND Seahawks lose 2

Rams need 2 wins AND 2 Vikings losses AND 2 Bears losses AND 2 Giants losses; AND Redskins OR Cowboys to lose today but then win in Week 17 (piece of cake!)

[revo]

It's amazing that Calvin Johnson has almost 1900 yds receiving and just FIVE TDs.

[schlesinj]

He has been taken down 6 times at 1 yard line. I believe a few others inside 5 too.

[schlesinj]

Dez Bryant top 3 WR next year?

[revo]

Dez Bryant top 3 WR next year?

He could be. 2nd round fantasy pick?

[Piney Boy]

Most likely he can be. Looks like he is finally putting it together this year.

[madducks]

Steelers suffer their fifth 3 point loss of the season, and drop to 7-8, thus ending their wild card hopes. Second week in a row that the game ends with a Roethlisberger INT leading to the winning field goal for the opponent. As bad as their record is, i really don't think that they have too many holes to fill for next year. Just have another solid draft to add depth and keep everyone healthy.

[Judge Jude]

2013 NFL DRAFT LEADERS

ladies, we have our 1-2 picks - anyone know which order?

JAGUARS 2-13
CHIEFS 2-13

LIONS 4-11
EAGLES 4-11
RAIDERS 4-11

TITANS 5-10
BILLS 5-10
CARDINALS 5-10
BROWNS 5-10

PANTHERS 6-9
CHARGERS 6-9
JETS 6-9
BUCCANEERS 6-9

[Judge Jude]

WEEK 17 GAMES

earlier
RAVENS 10-5 at BENGALS 9-6 - division winner vs wild card qualifier
TEXANS 12-3 at COLTS 10-5 - ditto
BEARS 9-6 at Lions 4-11 - wild card hopeful
Eagles 4-11 at GIANTS 8-7 - Giants likely need a win and a ton of help (MOVED)

later
PACKERS 11-4 at VIKINGS 9-6 - division winner vs wild card hopeful (MOVED)
Rams 7-7-1 at SEAHAWKS 10-5 - Seahawks the 5 seed unless
Cardinals 5-10 at 49ERS 10-4-1 - a formality?
Chiefs 2-13 at BRONCOS 12-3 - need for bye?
Dolphins 7-8 at PATRIOTS 11-4 - need for bye?

COWBOYS 8-7 at REDSKINS 9-6 - winner wins NFC East; flexed til Sun nite (MOVED

[revo]

The Seahawks have been as hot as any team I can recall. They are just dominating the Niners tonight.

[revo]

This could be one of the greatest rookie classes in NFL history. Russell Wilson deserves not only the rookie of the year award, but merits serious MVP consideration, and he could very well finish anywhere in the top 5 for the rookie award.

[revo]

???

The Seahawks have beaten Dallas, New England, Minnesota, Green Bay, Chicago and now San Francisco this year. Frankly, they've beaten all the playoff caliber teams on their schedule this season, save one game vs SF.

[revo]

The Seahawks have scored 150 pts in the last three games! uunreal!

[Judge Jude]

I exited the conversation, but if you must revive it - the Seahawks have beaten up on visiting opponents and bad road teams, neither of which are going to see in the offseason (well, the Bears have a chance to make it; the Seahawks played them at maximum freefall and stole one).

I'm not sure I would tout the Packers "win" at home, either, unless that same officiating crew is welcomed back as grand marshals in a parade.

Nothing against Wilson, who has been terrific, but running up the score on teams that don't care doesn't get me excited about a team's playoff chances.

They were so good tonite against a QB with about 4 starts that if they were at home again in that spot against a similar playoff team, I'd take them in a heartbeat.

I realize the Seahawks have only been terribly lopsided in 30 years or so of home/road football, so no reason to consider the site of the games.


Based on your analysis, if you'll give me a mere 7 pts against the hapless Cowboys or Redskins in Week 18, I might have to consider it!

[revo]

Are they a great road team? Maybe not earlier in the year. Are they now? Hell, I wouldn't want to see them show up in my stadium. Every road game they lost was by less than a TD. And that was before they "clicked."

These Niners "don't care?" I think every team cares, they just can't do anything about it.

No matter the theory, I wouldn't want to face Seattle anywhere the next few weeks.