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sucked...so who's the champ???
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Uhhh...I'd say that's pretty self-evident. The BCS Bowl is essentially the Super Bowl of college football. Much as I hate admitting it, it's pretty clear the SEC was the class of college football this year. None of their top three teams had a non-conference loss and wins against Penn State (Alabama, before the PSU meltdown), Kansas State (Arkansas pounded them), West Virginia and Oregon (both slapped around by LSU).
I'm all for a playoff, but there's no doubt this year who the best two teams were, and the winner is the national champ.I'm just here for the baseball.
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Yep, I'm as big of a BCS-critic as anyone but 'Bama was clearly the best team this year. To say otherwise is silly, sorry Mith.If DMT didn't exist we would have to invent it. There has to be a weirdest thing. Once we have the concept weird, there has to be a weirdest thing. And DMT is simply it.
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So OK State wouldn't have beaten either team? I think they would have ..and so do many many other people...Originally posted by DMT View Post
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On any given game, anything can happen. But 9 times out of 10 - and that might just be low - either Alabama or LSU slaps Okie State or Stanford around. LSU simply dominated Oregon - up 17 after three, up 20 when it mattered in the 4th. And Oregon simply flogged Stanford.Originally posted by Mithrandir View PostI'm just here for the baseball.Comment
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Exactly the point why the BCS sucks..anything can happen on any given day. But your 9 out of 10 is simply your opinion..my opinion is different."I lingered round them, under that benign sky: watched the moths fluttering among the heath and harebells, listened to the soft wind breathing through the grass, and wondered how any one could ever imagine unquiet slumbers for the sleepers in that quiet earth."Comment
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Based on what? Show me how the top 3 Big 12 teams fared better against premium opponents than the top 3 of the SEC. Or explain to me how OSU barely beating the second best team in the Pac 12 is stronger than LSU walloping the best team in the Pac 12. Or how losing to Iowa State equates to losing to LSU. Or how the third best team in the SEC slapped around the second best team in the Big 12...and that the 3rd best team in the SEC was beat pretty soundly by both 'Bama and LSU.Originally posted by Mithrandir View Post
I'm game.I'm just here for the baseball.Comment
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I found it very interesting to look at the results of the top three Big 12 teams agains Top 25 opponents as compared to the records of the top SEC teams (Alabama, LSU and Arkansas) against Top 25 opponents. The SEC was very strong in this regard, despite the fact they had to keep playing each other. LSU, for example, beat eight (8) top 25 opponents during the regular season. I can't remember anyone else doing that. Alabama had a total of 5 wins against Top 25 teams. Even Arkansas beat four Top 25 teams, beating Kansas State and losing only to Alabama and LSU.
So, the Big 12 goes 10 - 5. The SEC goes 1 7 - 4. And all four of the losses suffered by these top three SEC teams were to the #1 and #2 teams in the country, Alabama and LSU.
Did any other conference perform as well as the SEC against top competition?Comment
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Too be blunt, i could give a **** about conferences..i'm talking individual teams.Originally posted by chancellor View Post
Oklahoma State had wins over three currently ranked teams (No. 10 Oklahoma, No. 11 Kansas State, No. 17 Baylor).
Alabama had wins over two currently ranked teams (No. 8 Arkansas, No. 21 Penn State). And Penn State wasn't really that good.
Oklahoma State only played one sister of the poor in their non-conference schedule (Louisiana-Lafayette).
Alabama played three sisters of the poor (Kent State, North Texas, FCS Georgia Southern).
But i'm sure this won't mean anything to you..."I lingered round them, under that benign sky: watched the moths fluttering among the heath and harebells, listened to the soft wind breathing through the grass, and wondered how any one could ever imagine unquiet slumbers for the sleepers in that quiet earth."Comment
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Mith, they completely DOMINATED the consensus #1 team...your refusal to acknowledge this is baffling. Did you watch the game? There is no way that OSU would have dominated them like that. They should not have even won their bowl game so claiming they are the best team is about as ridiculous as saying Rush is the greatest band ever.Originally posted by Mithrandir View PostIf DMT didn't exist we would have to invent it. There has to be a weirdest thing. Once we have the concept weird, there has to be a weirdest thing. And DMT is simply it.
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Yeah, I like to look at individual teams, too. Man, if they could only have beaten that 6-7 Iowa State! Pesky bunch, those Cyclones.Originally posted by Mithrandir View PostComment
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i'm talking about BEFORE the BCS game. Yeah after the fact it's easy to say Alabama deserved it... BEFORE the game Alabama already lost to LSU so why get another shot? The difference in the computer rankings between OK State and Alabama was just about nothing..probably based on some knucklehead voting OK State fifth or something..Originally posted by DMT View Post
Based on the way LSU played in the BCS title game, they didn't look like they deserved to play in the game.
Zeppelin is the greatest band ever!!Last edited by Mithrandir; 01-12-2012, 09:34 PM."I lingered round them, under that benign sky: watched the moths fluttering among the heath and harebells, listened to the soft wind breathing through the grass, and wondered how any one could ever imagine unquiet slumbers for the sleepers in that quiet earth."Comment
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"Playing a day after Oklahoma State women's basketball coach Kurt Budke and three others were killed in a plane crash"....just sayin...Originally posted by Lucky View Post
Sure, maybe OK State had a bad loss, but it's just too damn bad we'll never know if they could have beaten LSU or Alabama..hell it'ed be nice to see if Boise State could have beaten LSU or Alabama..but all we can do is argue about it BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAPPEN ON THE FIELD. That's my gripe with this BCS bullsh!t."I lingered round them, under that benign sky: watched the moths fluttering among the heath and harebells, listened to the soft wind breathing through the grass, and wondered how any one could ever imagine unquiet slumbers for the sleepers in that quiet earth."Comment
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