RJ Pay for Play - Draft Discussion Thread 2011

[Piney Boy]

You can't keep 1st or 2nd rounders. We have a -2 system so someone drafted in rd 3 would cost a rd 1 pick. Hence Rd 2 and Rd 1 are thrown back in.

[frae]

Here's a question for the league.....if I trade for a player who was a 2nd rd pick and I trade him for my 2nd rd pick next year and I decide to keep him, then what pick am I replacing in next year's draft?

Jason will correct me if I am wrong, but I am almost 100% sure that if you have a 2nd rd keeper and you have no 2nd rd pick left you would lose your first rd pick.

[frae]

You can't keep 1st or 2nd rounders. We have a -2 system so someone drafted in rd 3 would cost a rd 1 pick. Hence Rd 2 and Rd 1 are thrown back in.

I think he means a player who is valued at a 2nd rd keeper, ie a 4th rd pick this year.

[schlesinj]

Jason will correct me if I am wrong, but I am almost 100% sure that if you have a 2nd rd keeper and you have no 2nd rd pick left you would lose your first rd pick.

Kind of the same idea as if you have two 8th round keepers, one is a 7th rounder and the other is the 8th rounder.

[jwlincy]

Jason will correct me if I am wrong, but I am almost 100% sure that if you have a 2nd rd keeper and you have no 2nd rd pick left you would lose your first rd pick.

Keith is correct. You can't keep a player in a particular round if you don't have a draft pick in that round. They would have to move up to the previous round. So in this case the 2nd round keeper could only be kept as a 1st round pick.

[SeaDogStat]

Here's a question for the league.....if I trade for a player who was a 2nd rd pick and I trade him for my 2nd rd pick next year and I decide to keep him, then what pick am I replacing in next year's draft?

You can't keep 1st or 2nd rounders. We have a -2 system so someone drafted in rd 3 would cost a rd 1 pick. Hence Rd 2 and Rd 1 are thrown back in.

But, in that type of scenario, Gris, subbing a 5th RD keeper with no 5th rd pick in your example, you would have to use your 4th rd pick instead.

That scenario was playing out for me, as Revo was pointing out to me, with Shonn Greene where he is a 7th rd keeper (and I had no 6th or 7th rd pick at the time) then he would have been my 5th rd keeper. But, luckily, I still had ammo left (Victor Cruz and Plaxico Burris...right Ed? ) to net me a 7th rd pick...

[griswold]

Ok, gotchya! It makes sense. Thanks!

[schlesinj]

Now the more interesting question is if you trade away your first rounder and keep someone like Foster (who was a 1st round keeper this year) what happens?

[jwlincy]

Now the more interesting question is if you trade away your first rounder and keep someone like Foster (who was a 1st round keeper this year) what happens?

You would not have the option to keep Foster in this scenario. You should probably start looking for a trading partner to deal Foster to.

[frae]

Now the more interesting question is if you trade away your first rounder and keep someone like Foster (who was a 1st round keeper this year) what happens?

I would say you can't keep a 1st rounder if you don't have a 1st rd pick.

[Hammer]

I would say you can't keep a 1st rounder if you don't have a 1st rd pick.

correct

[griswold]

Good trade Hammer....no draft picks were traded though?

That's what was holding me back was giving up the first rd pick.

[Hammer]

I receive Pineys 1st round pick. Piney receives my 9th round pick.

[Hammer]

in the deal with Phreak, I recieve NABs 4th round pick.

[frae]

I feel so left out from all the trading. Has anyone else who is competing for this year not made a trade? I just really have a hard time trading picks. It feels like picks are just being thrown around with no regard. I mean guys this isn't like a Kim Kardashian wedding, this is a long term commitment.