NFL Draft

[onejayhawk]

We might as well start the thread with a mock draft.

1. Cleveland Browns - Myles Garrett [DE] Texas A&M
2. San Francisco 49ers - Solomon Thomas [DE] Stanford
3. Chicago Bears - Jonathan Allen [DT] Alabama
4. Jacksonville Jaguars - Malik Hooker [FS] Ohio State
5. Tennessee Titans - Reuben Foster [ILB] Alabama
6. New York Jets - Marshon Lattimore [CB] Ohio State
7. Los Angeles Chargers - Jamal Adams [SS] LSU
8. Carolina Panthers - O.J. Howard [TE] Alabama
9. Cincinnati Bengals - Derek Barnett [DE] Tennessee
10. Buffalo Bills - Christian McCaffrey [RB] Stanford
11. New Orleans Saints - Takkarist McKinley [OLB] UCLA
12. Cleveland Browns - Mitch Trubisky [QB] North Carolina
13. Arizona Cardinals - Patrick Mahomes II [QB] Texas Tech
14. Philadelphia Eagles - Gareon Conley [CB] Ohio State
15. Indianapolis Colts - Leonard Fournette [RB] LSU
16. Baltimore Ravens - Mike Williams [WR] Clemson
17. Washington Redskins - Dalvin Cook [RB] Florida State
18. Tennessee Titans - Marlon Humphrey [CB] Alabama
19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Taco Charlton [DE] Michigan
20. Denver Broncos - Deshaun Watson [QB] Clemson
21. Detroit Lions - Garett Bolles [OT] Utah
22. Miami Dolphins - Ryan Ramczyk [OT] Wisconsin
23. Oakland Raiders - Haason Reddick [OLB] Temple
24. New York Giants - DeShone Kizer [QB] Notre Dame
25. Houston Texans - Jarrad Davis [ILB] Florida
26. Seattle Seahawks - Forrest Lamp [OG] Western Kentucky
27. Kansas City Chiefs - David Njoku [TE] Miami (Fla.)
28. Dallas Cowboys - Charles Harris [DE] Missouri
29. Green Bay Packers - T.J. Watt [OLB] Wisconsin
30. Pittsburgh Steelers - Corey Davis [WR] Western Michigan
31. Atlanta Falcons - Jordan Willis [DE] Kansas State
32. New Orleans Saints - John Ross [WR] Washington

[revo]

Conley still a 1st rounder after the rape allegations? No way.

[Pauly]

Wow...preface this by saying I dont follow the run-up to the draft at all, but as someone who watches a lot of ACC football, I am surprised to see Deshaun Watson profiling in the first round. Maybe it's the Dak Prescott thing.

[chancellor]

Conley still a 1st rounder after the rape allegations? No way.

Agree. Don't think there's any way the Panthers take a TE at 8, either.

But overall, this looks like a solid effort. I'll be tracking it tonight, and REALLY hope you're right about Watt.

[onejayhawk]

Wow...preface this by saying I dont follow the run-up to the draft at all, but as someone who watches a lot of ACC football, I am surprised to see Deshaun Watson profiling in the first round. Maybe it's the Dak Prescott thing.

There are no first round QB this year. That's why I only put four in the round. Seriously, if he was not a QB, he would grade third round.

With Carolina it's how far can OJ Howard slide? He's a top 5 talent in many books.

On Conley, he's vehemently denying the accusation. While he did have a police interview and gave a DNA sample, he also has witnesses supporting his story. The teams will have done indepth investigation. As of now I am treating it as slander. If he falls out of the first round, I may believe it. If he falls out of day 2, then I was wrong.

Here is a no-Conley version

1. Cleveland Browns - Myles Garrett, DE Texas A&M
2. San Francisco 49ers - Solomon Thomas, DE Stanford
3. Chicago Bears - Jonathan Allen, DT Alabama
4. Jacksonville Jaguars - Malik Hooker, FS Ohio State
5. Tennessee Titans - Reuben Foster, ILB Alabama
6. New York Jets - Marshon Lattimore, CB Ohio State
7. Los Angeles Chargers - Jamal Adams, SS LSU
8. Carolina Panthers - O.J. Howard, TE Alabama
9. Cincinnati Bengals - Derek Barnett, DE Tennessee
10. Buffalo Bills - Christian McCaffrey, RB Stanford
11. New Orleans Saints - Takkarist McKinley, OLB UCLA
12. Cleveland Browns - Mitch Trubisky, QB North Carolina
13. Arizona Cardinals - Patrick Mahomes II, QB Texas Tech
14. Philadelphia Eagles - Marlon Humphrey, CB Alabama
15. Indianapolis Colts - Leonard Fournette, RB LSU
16. Baltimore Ravens - Mike Williams, WR Clemson
17. Washington Redskins - Dalvin Cook, RB Florida State
18. Tennessee Titans - Corey Davis, WR Western Michigan
19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Taco Charlton, DE Michigan
20. Denver Broncos - Deshaun Watson, QB Clemson
21. Detroit Lions - Garett Bolles, OT Utah
22. Miami Dolphins - Ryan Ramczyk, OT Wisconsin
23. Oakland Raiders - Haason Reddick, OLB Temple
24. New York Giants - DeShone Kizer, QB Notre Dame
25. Houston Texans - Jarrad Davis, ILB Florida
26. Seattle Seahawks - Forrest Lamp, OG Western Kentucky
27. Kansas City Chiefs - David Njoku, TE Miami (Fla.)
28. Dallas Cowboys - Charles Harris, DE Missouri
29. Green Bay Packers - T.J. Watt, OLB Wisconsin
30. Pittsburgh Steelers - John Ross, WR Washington
31. Atlanta Falcons - Jordan Willis, DE Kansas State
32. New Orleans Saints - Kevin King, CB Washington


J

[onejayhawk]

Conley at #24. He may have slipped a bit.

Word is that he passed a polygraph.

QB trades will really mess up your board. I did not see the Chiefs moving up 17 picks. The Texans moved up 13 picks right behind them. For the record, but paid a discounted price.

J

[Judge Jude]

so what is the Allen thing - sucker bet?

[onejayhawk]

Allen must be more injured than draftnicks knew. Shoulder and back problems are inherently serious.

I would not dare mock it this way.

1 CLE Myles Garrett | DE, Texas A&M

Trade - Bears trade #3, 3rd, 6th and 2018 3rd

2 CHI Mitchell Trubisky | QB, North Carolina
3 SF Solomon Thomas | DE, Stanford
4 JAX Leonard Fournette | RB, LSU
5 TEN Corey Davis | WR, Western Michigan
6 NYJ Jamal Adams | SS, LSU
7 SD Mike Williams | WR, Clemson
8 CAR Christian McCaffrey | RB, Stanford
9 CIN John Ross | WR, Washington

Trade - Chiefs trade #27, 3rd and 2018 1st

10 KC Patrick Mahomes II | QB, Texas Tech
11 NO Marshon Lattimore | CB, Ohio State

Trade - Texans trade #25 and 2018 1st

12 HOU Deshaun Watson | QB, Clemson
13 ARI Haason Reddick | OLB, Temple
14 PHI Derek Barnett | DE, Tennessee
15 IND Malik Hooker | FS, Ohio State
16 BAL Marlon Humphrey | CB, Alabama
17 WAS Jonathan Allen | DT, Alabama
18 TEN Adoree' Jackson | CB, Southern California
19 TB O.J. Howard | TE, Alabama
20 DEN Garett Bolles | OT, Utah
21 DET Jarrad Davis | ILB, Florida
22 MIA Charles Harris | DE, Missouri
23 NYG Evan Engram | TE, Ole Miss
24 OAK Gareon Conley | CB, Ohio State
25 CLE Jabrill Peppers | SS, Michigan

Trade - Atlanta trades #31, 3rd and 7th

26 ATL Takkarist McKinley | OLB, UCLA
27 BUF Tre'Davious White | CB, LSU
28 DAL Taco Charlton | DE, Michigan

Trade - Cleveland trades #33 and 4th

29 CLE David Njoku | TE, Miami (Fla.)
30 PIT T.J. Watt | OLB, Wisconsin

Trade - SF trades #34 and 4th

31 SF Reuben Foster | ILB, Alabama
32 NO Ryan Ramczyk | OT, Wisconsin

J

[Gregg]

It was reported that Allen has arthritic shoulders.

[chancellor]

At Lambeau for the Packers pick to lead off the night. Thompson better not trade down.

[onejayhawk]

One commentary

Jay, this is without a doubt the single worst mock draft I have ever seen.

1 CLE Myles Garrett | DE, Texas A&M

Myles Garrett #1? Dude, have you not seen all of the rumors of the Browns going Trubisky #1? No way they draft Garrett at this point. The Browns NEED a franchise quarterback.

Trade - Bears trade #3, 3rd, 6th and 2018 3rd

2 CHI Mitchell Trubisky | QB, North Carolina
3 SF Solomon Thomas | DE, Stanford

This is a silly trade. Why would Chicago trade up one pick for someone who is going to be there at #3? Especially giving up a pair of thirds like that. In a draft this deep? Turrible.

4 JAX Leonard Fournette | RB, LSU

Oh, a mock with Leonard Fournette going to Jacksonville. How originall

5 TEN Corey Davis | WR, Western Michigan

Davis is good, but David Njoku would be better.

6 NYJ Jamal Adams | SS, LSU

C'mon Jay. Not even the Jets think Adams is going to be there when #6 rolls around.

7 SD Mike Williams | WR, Clemson

A receiver to San Diego? With all of the holes on defense and so many good receivers as is? I don't see it.

8 CAR Christian McCaffrey | RB, Stanford

I dunno. I keep seeing this in mock drafts, but Carolina loves their power backs and at 202, that is not McCaffrey.

9 CIN John Ross | WR, Washington

Ross at nine? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEach. Seriously, you think in the best defensive draft anyone has seen in years, Cincinnati is going to draft an injury prone speedster?

Trade - Chiefs trade #27, 3rd and 2018 1st

10 KC Patrick Mahomes II | QB, Texas Tech

I would think if anyone would not want to see this, it would be you jay. Trading a third and a future first to move up and get Mahomes? With Kizer AND Zach Cunningham there at #27? I thought I knew you jayhawk. The Chiefs are a VALUE ORIENTED TEAM. VALUE. ORIENTED. There's no way they would trade up to make such a reach.

11 NO Marshon Lattimore | CB, Ohio State

The pick makes sense from a need perspective but c'mon. Lattimore falling out of the top ten? Not happening.

Trade - Texans trade #25 and 2018 1st

12 HOU Deshaun Watson | QB, Clemson

I've been talking to Texans fans for weeks and they are insistent they aren't drafting Watson. He flat out does not fit their vertical offense. He doesn't have the arm to make it work. They aren't drafting Watson at #25 let alone giving up a first round pick to trade up for him. And what, now Cleveland is going to own Houston's first AND second round picks in 2018? For noodle armed Watson? No siree.

13 ARI Haason Reddick | OLB, Temple

Once upon a time, I thought Arizona could take a linebacker too, but Sio Moore has allegedly played very well for them. And now Daryl Washington has been taken off of suspension. No way they pass on Jonathan Allen for Reddick.

14 PHI Derek Barnett | DE, Tennessee

Really? A defensive end? With all of the money they're paying Vinny Curry and a just signed Chris Long? This is a team that NEEDS a cornerback possibly more than any team needs anything.

15 IND Malik Hooker | FS, Ohio State

No way Hooker falls this far. And even if he does, they resigned Darius Butler and intend to move him to free safety.

16 BAL Marlon Humphrey | CB, Alabama

I used to think corner was a possibility for Baltimore too, but after signing Brandon Carr, I have been convinced they don't need one anymore. At least not in the first round. They have holes the size of Rhode Island on their offensive line and if they miss out on the first round WR's, they would likely go that route or an edge rusher.

17 WAS Jonathan Allen | DT, Alabama

I mean, I think the shoulder could cause Jonathan Allen to fall, but not even I think he's falling this far.

18 TEN Adoree' Jackson | CB, Southern California

How..... DARE you have the Titans pass on future greatest NFL player of all time, David Njoku for a plebian like Adoree' Jackson. This is an affront to all that is holy in this world. The Titans are GOING TO DRAFT David Njoku no matter what.

19 TB O.J. Howard | TE, Alabama

Do you honestly think he's going to fall this far? There have been runors he could go as high as #4. I would be shocked if he fel lthis far.

20 DEN Garett Bolles | OT, Utah

I dunno. This is kind of a reach. Maybe if they traded down first.

21 DET Jarrad Davis | ILB, Florida

I dunno. I mean I would think if the Lions were going to draft Jarrad Davis with Reuben Foster and Zach Cunningham still on the board, they'd wait until the second round. Foster has injury concerns, but Davis wasn't exactly the sturdiest of fellows in college.

22 MIA Charles Harris | DE, Missouri

I could see maybe a long term replacement for Cameron Wake, but in round 1? You have no interior linemen going at this point and the Dolphins need one more than anything.

23 NYG Evan Engram | TE, Ole Miss

Drafting a slot receiver a year after they took Sterling Shepard in the second round? I mean I know Shepard despite a pretty decent year was a C-O-L-O-S-S-A-L mistake with Michael Thomas still on the board, but he was not so bad that they need to replace him one year in.

24 OAK Gareon Conley | CB, Ohio State

Dude, Joe Mixon and Dalvin Cook are falling out of the first round because they punched women. You think someone who has been accused of RAPE is going to get drafted that early?

25 CLE Jabrill Peppers | SS, Michigan

I dunno. I've mocked Peppers to the Browns in three of my five drafts (and one where I didn't was done purposely so) and Browns fans seem really upset by the notion. If they take him, I think everyone is going to really rail on what would be a very good pick and a great team fit. We'll have to see.

Trade - Atlanta trades #31, 3rd and 7th

26 ATL Takkarist McKinley | OLB, UCLA

I could see the trade happening, but all rumors point to Jordan Willis. Also, there is talk McKinley could fall out of the first round due to injury. Just the same, I wouldn't be opposed to it if I were a Falcons fan. He seems like an articulate, polite, well composed young man.

27 BUF Tre'Davious White | CB, LSU

Ahead of Kevin King?

28 DAL Taco Charlton | DE, Michigan

I dunno. Looking at Dallas' draft history this century, they seem to prefer defensive backs in the first round and waiting until round 2 to draft a pass rusher. They are rumored to be very interested in Obi Melifonwu and you still have him on the board at this point.

Trade - Cleveland trades #33 and 4th

29 CLE David Njoku | TE, Miami (Fla.)

So you think Cleveland is going to have THREE first rounders and somehow manage to not draft a quarterback. That's insane.

30 PIT T.J. Watt | OLB, Wisconsin

I dunno. It makes sense, but ahead of Reuben Foster and Zach Cunningham? Who is going to replace Lawrence Timmons?

Trade - SF trades #34 and 4th

31 SF Reuben Foster | ILB, Alabama

There is no way he falls this far. The dude is a top ten talent. Can you honestly think of a linebacker projected to go in the top ten who fell out of the top 30 even due to injury? It just doesn't happen.

32 NO Ryan Ramczyk | OT, Wisconsin

It's possible with Zach Strief's age, but they need so much help on defense, it would be a surprise to see them draft an offensive lineman in the first round again. Also, would the Giants and Seahawks really pass on Ramcyzk? Both need offensive tackle help badly.

This is a bad mock draft J, and you should feel bad for writing it. :lol

[madducks]

I really like the T.J. Watt first round pick at #30 for the Steelers. Watt switched from TE to OLB last year and dominated in his first season at the new position. He pretty much excelled on just raw talent alone. I know he will need more than raw talent in the pros. But, the Steelers should be able to bring him along slowly and prepare him for a larger role in 2018.

And Pittsburgh fans are really loving the third round pick of hometown favorite RB James Conner from Pitt. Not that the Steelers need any help with ticket sales.

[hacko]

So you think Cleveland is going to have THREE first rounders and somehow manage to not draft a quarterback. That's insane.


But they did get a QB - in the Second . Really like there draft so far.

Here's hoping Hue is the QB whisperer they say he is.

[onejayhawk]

Actually, the QB whisperer is Andy Reid. He's the one that moved up 17 picks to draft Mahomes.

J

[TyWebb004]

Actually, the QB whisperer is Andy Reid. He's the one that moved up 17 picks to draft Mahomes.

J

Sean Payton said after the draft that if Lattimore wasn't available at 11 that the Saints would have taken Mahomes. I think that KC suspected that, which is why they traded up to 10.