*** VD 11 Commentary Thread ***

[The Feral Slasher]

Well, I'm not ready to pick. But that's OK, because Feral took Phillippe, who was already selected. By Heyelander. Again trying to take his players...

That Bastard, always stealing my guys

[The Feral Slasher]

okay, I drafted some other loser....carry on

[TS Garp]

Is he one of those "doesn't have enough to qualify" guys? Levi Meyerle doesn't show up as any position, either, even though he's a 3B technically.

I remember Hastings being taken in other drafts as a catcher (ditto for Levi at 3B), which is why I took him. As long as he qualifies there and it's just a spreadsheet glitch, we're fine -- just wanted to check.

[heyelander]

That Bastard, always stealing my guys

You really should change your password to something other than "password"

[Long John]

I'm on a plane most of tomorrow and will finally be back home late tomorrow night. I fwd my next pick to heye.

[johnnya24]

MJL needs to repick Fred Goldsmith. His 1879 year is not eligible as it doesn't meet with the IP or Games Played minimum requirement.

[johnnya24]

The spate of 1870's picks got me wondering ... why are there so few BY's? Somehow the following 1870's pitchers (on the career sheet) have eligible BY's that are not on the BY sheet. No eligible 1870's BY's were filtered out of the SS, so not sure how that happened. The following players have eligible BY's for pitching (brackets = number of BY's):

deando01     Dean, Dory (1)
fishech01    Fisher, Cherokee (3+)
foleycu01    Foley, Curry (1)
goldemi01    Golden, Mike (1)
hankifr01    Hankinson, Frank (1)
healeto01    Healey, Tom (1)
knighlo01    Knight, Lon (2)
martiph01    Martin, Phonney (1)
mccorha01    McCormick, Harry (1)
mcgunbi01    McGunnigle, Bill (1)
mcmuljo01    McMullin, John (1)
mitchbo01    Mitchell, Bobby (2)
nichotr01    Nichols, Tricky (2)
nolanth01    Nolan, The_Only (1)
parksbi01    Parks, Bill (1)
prattal01    Pratt, Al (2)
purcebl01    Purcell, Blondie (1)
stearbi01    Stearns, Bill (3)
woltery01    Wolters, Rynie (1)

I will have to import these from BR.com ... so in the mean time you can check through them yourselves.

Edit:

I'll add these BY's to the sheet tomorrow morning. These are the "draftable" years. The other eligible years will be desperation picks.

1878    weavesa01        Weaver, Sam [B]PICKED[/B]
1878    nolanth01        Nolan, The Only
1875    nichotr01        Nichols, Tricky 
1877    nichotr01        Nichols, Tricky 
1879    mcgunbi01        McGunnigle, Bill 
1879    mccorha01        McCormick, Harry 
1875    knighlo01        Knight, Lon
1878    healeto01        Healey, Tom
1879    hankifr01        hankinson, Frank [B]PICKED[/B]
1875    goldemi01        Golden, Mike
1879    foleycu01        Foley, Curry
1872    fishech01        Fisher, Cherokee [B]PICKED[/B]
1875    fishech01        Fisher, Cherokee [B]PICKED[/B]

Bump ...

[johnnya24]

I'm on a plane most of tomorrow and will finally be back home late tomorrow night. I fwd my next pick to heye.

I'm out also. So I guess I'll also forward to Heyelander

Hope he can handle all this pressure.

[Pogues]

MJL needs to repick Fred Goldsmith. His 1879 year is not eligible as it doesn't meet with the IP or Games Played minimum requirement.

I was wondering about that...but couldn't find the rules for the minimums anywhere. Might not have looked very hard.

[Pogues]

We've been using the same minimums for a really, really long time now.

Haven't been in a draft for a really, really long time now.

[mjl]

We've been using the same minimums for a really, really long time now.

Where are the minimums listed? I found http://forum.rotojunkiefix.com/showt...ll=1#post57880 which made me think the minimum was 40 innings.

[johnnya24]

Not sure why Johnny didn't put this in the first post like he usually does, but this is from the last draft (and many, many more before it):

"ii. The player must have an eligible season. For a hitter's "best season", the hitter must have at least 100 ABs during the season. To be an eligible season for a pitcher's "best season", the pitcher must have at least 100 IP or 40 appearances during the season."


I assume it was just at typo to put 40 IP in that discussion thread from some years back. To my knowledge, the IP minimum has never been 40, it's always been 100 ever since Seitzer discovered how to dominate every draft by drafting some obscure QUIZY pitcher with 1.2 IP.

Hackos fault ... he stole the second post in the draft thread before I could grab it (that's my excuse anyway).

I think the IP rules were brought in after my first W/K punt game ... I won by about 80 points ... filled out the pitching with junk low IP QUIZENVY's. It was so long ago ... I could be wrong though. The team IP minimum was definitely brought in after the subsequent draft, which I also W/K'd for an easy win. That pretty much killed the strat (though it can still work in extraordinary circumstances ... or if you like gambling).

[johnnya24]

Where are the minimums listed? I found http://forum.rotojunkiefix.com/showt...ll=1#post57880 which made me think the minimum was 40 innings.

Sorry, I just assume everyone knows these little details.

The reason it was brought in was to stop bad people from using cheesy pitching strats that relied on low IP pitchers to protect ratios.

[revo]

I don't know what the hell I was thinking when I took Davy Force. I think I misread his BA to be .294 instead of .249. *sigh*

[heyelander]

Sorry, Flaked... I didn't realize LJ came righ after Johnny.