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Kershaw...MVP....end of story
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I'm unconsoled I'm lonely, I am so much better than I used to be.
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Originally posted by BuckyBuckner View PostI was thinking about this too. Though I have no problem with someone winning more than one award in a season. They should rename the MVP award the Babe Ruth Award (because he pitched and hit) and the hitter's award could be the Ted Williams Award.
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For me, it is part their own award thing, and part the fact that the batters faced vs ABs comparison doesn't take into account the defense a hitter plays every day. That makes him, generally, more valuable, imo.
Of course, David Ortiz making that argument is a joke, because as others have said, Kershaw plays more D than Ortiz. But I do agree with his logic--I'd vote for a pitcher for MVP over a DH. A DH would have to have an historic season that far outshines any position player before he should be considered MVP.
But all that said, again, Kershaw should be the MVP this year.
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Originally posted by The Dane View PostThe names work for me, but the reason I say that no one should win two in one season is because someone would win two in EVERY season. I can't think of a season where we would have three completely different winners, unless of course, things like "clutch" or leadership or play-offs come into play for MVP. I can't imagine that the Cy Young or Ted Williams winners would not be the MVP every year.I'm unconsoled I'm lonely, I am so much better than I used to be.
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Originally posted by The Dane View PostThe names work for me, but the reason I say that no one should win two in one season is because someone would win two in EVERY season. I can't think of a season where we would have three completely different winners, unless of course, things like "clutch" or leadership or play-offs come into play for MVP. I can't imagine that the Cy Young or Ted Williams winners would not be the MVP every year.Last edited by Sour Masher; 09-25-2014, 02:24 PM.
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Originally posted by BuckyBuckner View PostYou could be right. With these awards you would not have to worry about the whole "is the team a playoff team?" for the Cy Young and Ted Williams Awards.
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I think it's fine the way it is. Pitchers hardly ever win the MVP and when they do, it's because they produced an historic season (well, most of the time *cough*WillieHernandez*cough*) and no hitter put up eye-popping enough numbers to leapfrog him. With how inconsistent the Dodgers have been this year, it's always been comforting to know that when Kershaw takes the mound they're going to win. Can any other hitter's contributions to his team guarantee the equivalent of a win every five days?
Looking at the NL OPS leaders it's interesting that Kemp has moved all the way up to 7th yet only has 0.9 WAR?! His defensive metrics must suuuuuck. You have to go all the way to Garret Jones at #44 to find someone with a lower WAR.
And dang, Pittsburgh has three hitters in the top 10 in WAR. McCutchen is not actually #1 among hitters, instead its...Jonathan Lucroy!
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