2015 keepers

[cardboardbox]

First, closers are devalued in a 12-team mixed league; last year Kimbrel went for $16 and only a couple other closers went for over $10 (Robertson-14, Rosenthal-15). Given that tendency, I seriously doubt Street will go for more $13.

Thats very different than my 14 team mixed. Before we added holds (which was stupid) the top closer would go for about $25.

[DMT]

Your league dynamic concerning closers is much different than ours. Given this information it would be an easy choice to keep another player over Street. So if you are keeping Kazmir and we go back to the pick 3 list...

I still like Santana, and Felix as the first two. If you now include Garcia for a buck and I certainly wouldn't blame you. You now have Upton out again. Who do you like better Kaz or Upton?

Too tough to call right now, I'll just have to see how they play out the rest of the year.

[Gregg]

Too tough to call right now, I'll just have to see how they play out the rest of the year.

What could you get for Kazmir and Street?

[DMT]

What could you get for Kazmir and Street?

I'll let you know in a couple months

[DMT]

Just a month later and a lot has changed. I didn't even list Carrasco but now he has to make the cut, while Upton and Kazmir have been hot garbage.

Goldschmidt 14 x
Kipnis 8x
Escobar 1a
Santana 5a
Marte 5b (1 year extension now that Hurdle stopped jerking him around)
Felix 36a
Strasburg 13x
Carrasco 5a
Porcello 1a
~~~~~~ (only 1 from the rest)
Street 3b
Span 5a
Upton 32a
A Garcia 1a
Kazmir 11a

[DMT]

Before I start making offers, I'm curious how much perceptions have changed since August.

Goldschmidt 14 (O16)
Kipnis 8x (I have to keep him)
Escobar 1a
Santana 5a
Marte 5b - extend 1 year to 10 or 2 years to 15? Shandler loves him but I've become more conservative vis a vis extensions.
Felix 36a
Strasburg 13x
Carrasco 5a
~~~~~~ (only 2 from the rest)
Beltre 29B - His counting stats were down due to some minor injuries but 3B is weak and other top 3B will be kept (Donaldson, Arenado, Frazier, Harrison).
Street 3b - Closers are undervalued in this league. While he was one of the best last year, his injury history makes a repeat unlikely.
Span 5a - I have a lot of steals protected already.
Upton 32a - moves to Petco but actually has a career .900 OPS there.
A Garcia 1a - CBS has him projected for great stats and can't beat the price.
Porcello 1a - Move to Fenway discouraging.
Kazmir 11a - really tailed off but could just have been fatigue. SPs are overvalued in this league.

I plan on making a 2 or 3-for-1 deal, here are some of my targets: Cueto 16a, Seager 10a, Lucroy 1b, Iwakuma 2b, Cobb 5b, Lester 14a, Ross 6a.

[joncarlos]

Before I start making offers, I'm curious how much perceptions have changed since August.

Goldschmidt 14 (O16)
Kipnis 8x (I have to keep him)
Escobar 1a
Santana 5a
Marte 5b - extend 1 year to 10 or 2 years to 15? Shandler loves him but I've become more conservative vis a vis extensions.
Felix 36a
Strasburg 13x
Carrasco 5a
~~~~~~ (only 2 from the rest)
Beltre 29B - His counting stats were down due to some minor injuries but 3B is weak and other top 3B will be kept (Donaldson, Arenado, Frazier, Harrison).
Street 3b - Closers are undervalued in this league. While he was one of the best last year, his injury history makes a repeat unlikely.
Span 5a - I have a lot of steals protected already.
Upton 32a - moves to Petco but actually has a career .900 OPS there.
A Garcia 1a - CBS has him projected for great stats and can't beat the price.
Porcello 1a - Move to Fenway discouraging.
Kazmir 11a - really tailed off but could just have been fatigue. SPs are overvalued in this league.

I plan on making a 2 or 3-for-1 deal, here are some of my targets: Cueto 16a, Seager 10a, Lucroy 1b, Iwakuma 2b, Cobb 5b, Lester 14a, Ross 6a.

For 12-team mixed 5x5 with OB & Slug replacing BA & HR.... I would only extend Marte 1 year. No way I keep Escobar even for a buck. Which Santana is that? Carlos? Danny? Ervin? I'd probably keep Upton from your bottom half list. Guys like Avisail can be found for a buck.

[DMT]

For 12-team mixed 5x5 with OB & Slug replacing BA & HR.... I would only extend Marte 1 year. No way I keep Escobar even for a buck. Which Santana is that? Carlos? Danny? Ervin? I'd probably keep Upton from your bottom half list. Guys like Avisail can be found for a buck.

Thanks JC...Danny Santana. So replacing Escobar with Upton, that still leaves two more spots from the bottom list.

[joncarlos]

Thanks JC...Danny Santana. So replacing Escobar with Upton, that still leaves two more spots from the bottom list.

I see the temptation with Beltre. I know Street always seems to miss a month and closers are undervalued but he's so good I'd strongly consider keeping him anyway. If you really believe in Garcia and DON'T think you can get that kind of guy for a buck then I can see him too. Span is a regression candidate but the category changes help him.

I probably go Beltre and Span. Or Beltre and Garcia.

[chancellor]

An expensive Upton playing half his games in Petco? Pass.

I'd also ditch Escobar and go with these three:

- Street (injury-prone or not, he's nails --- plus at only $3 what's the risk?)
- Beltre (but really mostly because you state that most of the other 3B will be unavailable)
- Garcia (again, pretty much no risk here)

Sums up my thoughts pretty well. I agree with JC to only extend Marte one year.

[DMT]

Would you rather have a $28 Abreu or $6 Carter? I may have found a trade partner who wants Escobar and Kazmir.

[Gregg]

Would you rather have a $28 Abreu or $6 Carter? I may have found a trade partner who wants Escobar and Kazmir.

Carter at $6 is tempting, but I would rather have Abreu. In a 12 team mixed I want the best top end talent I can get. It looks like you can easily afford him.

[joncarlos]

Carter at $6 is tempting, but I would rather have Abreu. In a 12 team mixed I want the best top end talent I can get. It looks like you can easily afford him.

Yeah I agree with this.

[virgonomic]

Yeah I agree with this.

Same. There are other cheap sources of power like Arcia, Rasmus, etc.

[DMT]

Still working on Abreu, but what do you guys think of Baez at 7a? He worked with Manny Ramirez who loves him so this could be the year he busts out, or he could be back in AAA by June. Where would he rank among the group of keepers I'm considering. The guy wants Street but will probably settle for Porcello.