2 yrs, $15m. Given the other reliever deals out there, this one seems pretty tame.
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Originally posted by revo View Post2 yrs, $15m. Given the other reliever deals out there, this one seems pretty tame.Only the madman is absolutely sure. -Robert Anton Wilson, novelist (1932-2007)
Faith is believing what you know ain't so. -Mark Twain, author and humorist (1835-1910)
A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.
-- William James
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Sometimes there are real physical concerns--and sometimes there are others that have nothing to do with a player's physical condition. I'm not saying which category this falls in.Only the madman is absolutely sure. -Robert Anton Wilson, novelist (1932-2007)
Faith is believing what you know ain't so. -Mark Twain, author and humorist (1835-1910)
A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.
-- William James
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Originally posted by Moonlight J View Post
that's f'ed up. Rays & Reds team doctors both did a MRI review of him today and signed off on it saying his shoulder looks like it did 3 years ago.
I hope the Rays bring him back just so he can pitch against Baltimore every time he wants
And why are the Rays and Reds team doctors publicly discussing the medical records of a player that they have no affiliation with? Seems to be more than a bit odd, and a tad unprofessional as well...."Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
- Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)
"Your shitty future continues to offend me."
-Warren Ellis
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Personally, smells too much like a hired gun in a court case to me...something kind of unseemly about a Doctor that's eager to slag another's opinion. And that's essentially what it comes down to...
But I suspect that the O's simply looked at Balfour and said that they overreacted, and took this route out. Maybe they tried to work a deal Boston did with Napoli last season and Balfour wouldn't bite, but that's the only kind of a deal that he's going to get now..."Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
- Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)
"Your shitty future continues to offend me."
-Warren Ellis
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Originally posted by Hornsby View PostPersonally, smells too much like a hired gun in a court case to me...something kind of unseemly about a Doctor that's eager to slag another's opinion. And that's essentially what it comes down to...
But I suspect that the O's simply looked at Balfour and said that they overreacted, and took this route out. Maybe they tried to work a deal Boston did with Napoli last season and Balfour wouldn't bite, but that's the only kind of a deal that he's going to get now...
I think you're concentrating too much on the doctors and not on who is behind it. It's Balfour vs. the O's, and once the Orioles decided to let the world know that Balfour might have some problems in his shoulder, Balfour had to fight back. And one doctor says Balfour has shoulder issues and that's gospel? Again, horseshit. You get a second opinion. And a third. And then you have a much better scope of what's going on. Again, Balfour had to fight back somehow, and I think going to other docs and having them give their own professional opinions was the best means by which to do so.
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What are the O's suppose to do?
They looked at the medical reports and didn't want to invest in the guy. Are they STILL suppose to sign him? Get real ! This is why, virtually on every pre 'official' signing, you read the words: "joe blow just has to take his physical for the contract to be official".
I haven't read anything that attributes a specific quote to an actual oriole saying ball-four's shoulder looks bad. Nothing.
But I guess you guys want Baltimore to sign him and in May when his shoulder blows out or his elbow falls off, Baltimore's recourse is?
And just in case you all forgot, Billy B let ball four walk and instead took on a $10 million dollar closer...Last edited by wannabegriffey; 12-21-2013, 09:17 AM.
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Originally posted by wannabegriffey View PostWhat are the O's suppose to do?
They looked at the medical reports and didn't want to invest in the guy. Are they STILL suppose to sign him? Get real ! This is why, virtually on every pre 'official' signing, you read the words: "joe blow just has to take his physical for the contract to be official".
I haven't read anything that attributes a specific quote to an actual oriole saying ball-four's shoulder looks bad. Nothing.
But I guess you guys want Baltimore to sign him and in May when his shoulder blows out or his elbow falls off, Baltimore's recourse is?
And just in case you all forgot, Billy B let ball four walk and instead took on a $10 million dollar closer...
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Originally posted by Bodhizefa View PostI don't care one iota if Baltimore signs him or not. But they're the ones leaking the doctor report that Balfour's shoulder is questionable, and that isn't cool at all. Sign him, don't sign him, I don't care. But keep your HIPAA violating out of the media.
Honestly, is there any other way for a player's health to look when a signing is announced and then the team says it isn't going through with the deal ?
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