I would trade Lyles (3 year contract) for A Crow (3 yrs) and Carter Capps (4 yrs)? Is it time to give up on Lyles? I hate to trade a starter for 2 middle relievers but maybe its time to cut bait on Lyles. What do you think? I like Crow and think he can bounce back this year. Not sure what to think about Capps.
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Looking through previous threads that mention Capps, I see that some said he was the closer-in-waiting. Is Capps still in-line to be a closer down the road? Maybe it wouldn't hurt to take a chance on him.拖裤子,
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Originally posted by Trader Mac View PostLooking through previous threads that mention Capps, I see that some said he was the closer-in-waiting. Is Capps still in-line to be a closer down the road? Maybe it wouldn't hurt to take a chance on him."Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
- Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)
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Originally posted by Hornsby View PostHard to see him unseating Farquar at this point...but closers are notoriously fickle, so he might not be a bad ticket to hold on to...拖裤子,
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Farqhuar and Wilhelmsen might both be ahead of Capps, but I still think he might have the best chance to have value out of any of these 3 guys. How deep is this league? Lyles might be a league average starter. Crow and Capps might be 2 good relievers. I'm not sure any of them really matter.
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At first I was going to say that I also would do that deal. But after looking at the stats, I say why bother? Lyles is a back of the rotation starter on a bad team, much worse than league-average. He never profiled as having a ceiling better than a #3 so not much upside either. He's been little better than a blank spot on the roster so far. Both Capps and Crow could become closers at some point, but probably not for either one. Crow is established as a quality set-up man but he's likely 3rd in line at best on the closer depth chart in KC now. Capps is potentially a quality set up guy too, but hasnt been very good in MLB so far. He's perhaps no better than 3rd-in-line for closer either. Either one may be better than Lyles rt now, but neither figures to have much impact. I'd try to find a starter that is better than Lyles. All this was assuming a roto league; may be a little different in dynasty, which I dont play.
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Thanks for all the advice. I am having a hard time pulling the trigger but I'll probably do it. Looking over Lyles stats again, I just don't see why I am hanging on him other than the fact that he is a starter.Last edited by Trader Mac; 11-19-2013, 10:48 PM.拖裤子,
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I guess it depends on how big your rosters are and how deep your league goes. In any kind of normal league, I can't imagine intentionally keeping a roster spot for a reliever with no chance of closing and a strikeout per inning, which is what Crow has done so far, and Capps could get better but they could also get tired of him. Sure, I'd draft him, but I gotta think he's replaceable.
That said, giving up Lyles is not much of a cost unless Houston retools really quickly. I think if you're in some league with a 20-man bench and you have fewer keepers than you're allowed, you could do worse than to make the trade.In the best of times, our days are numbered, anyway. And it would be a crime against Nature for any generation to take the world crisis so solemnly that it put off enjoying those things for which we were presumably designed in the first place, and which the gravest statesmen and the hoarsest politicians hope to make available to all men in the end: I mean the opportunity to do good work, to fall in love, to enjoy friends, to sit under trees, to read, to hit a ball and bounce the baby.
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Originally posted by mjl View PostI guess it depends on how big your rosters are and how deep your league goes. In any kind of normal league, I can't imagine intentionally keeping a roster spot for a reliever with no chance of closing and a strikeout per inning, which is what Crow has done so far, and Capps could get better but they could also get tired of him. Sure, I'd draft him, but I gotta think he's replaceable.
That said, giving up Lyles is not much of a cost unless Houston retools really quickly. I think if you're in some league with a 20-man bench and you have fewer keepers than you're allowed, you could do worse than to make the trade.拖裤子,
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Literally means "pulling your pants down to fart" which is a Chinese idiom for "wasted effort." Makes sense to me!
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Oh, you can't just cut Cervelli? If there's a number of keepers that you absolutely have to have, those guys probably aren't bad filler.In the best of times, our days are numbered, anyway. And it would be a crime against Nature for any generation to take the world crisis so solemnly that it put off enjoying those things for which we were presumably designed in the first place, and which the gravest statesmen and the hoarsest politicians hope to make available to all men in the end: I mean the opportunity to do good work, to fall in love, to enjoy friends, to sit under trees, to read, to hit a ball and bounce the baby.
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Originally posted by mjl View PostOh, you can't just cut Cervelli? If there's a number of keepers that you absolutely have to have, those guys probably aren't bad filler.拖裤子,
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Literally means "pulling your pants down to fart" which is a Chinese idiom for "wasted effort." Makes sense to me!
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Originally posted by Trader Mac View PostI went ahead and did the deal. Cervelli and Lyles for Crow and Capps. Crap for crap IMO.
Kind of reminds me of an in-season deal I made about 5 years ago, Carlos Villanueva for Austin Kearns (might have been with ironmanatee). Within a month, both were gone from our rosters and we were laughing about it--"Did we REALLY think this was going to make a difference?"Only the madman is absolutely sure. -Robert Anton Wilson, novelist (1932-2007)
Faith is believing what you know ain't so. -Mark Twain, author and humorist (1835-1910)
A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.
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