2K24: New York Yankees

[BuckyBuckner]

The thing about this Drew deal that frustrates me is they still have Brendan Ryan who is an "elite defender who will provide value even if he bats zero" as eldiablo describes Drew. Of course in Ryan's case you can take the if out of that sentence and replace it with when. Right now Ryan is wasting a spot on the roster. Maybe they will just waive him. They need to make a move to get down to 40 players so maybe he'll be the guy.

[BuckyBuckner]

Hmm, good point.

I just saw some amusing trade ideas from Yankee fans on another site regarding Ryan. Fanboys come up with the most hilarious trade proposals.

Ryan for Hamels. The Yanks will offer to eat Ryan's AND Hamels' salaries. I can't believe Philly hasn't agreed to that yet.

[revo]

Drew is a steal. I guess he's undervalued by Yankee fans because of his bad year last year. Of course, had he had a good year you wouldn't be getting him for $5M. Drew is an elite defender who will provide value even if he bats zero. Good job by the Yankees diminishing that value though, I guess. I think the Yankee offseason has been a total trainwreck with no discernible direction whatsoever. Of course, I have no faith in Gregorius at all and imagine that Drew as "insurance" is a good idea even if Drew should be the starter anyway. This team looks totally lost at sea to me. I like it.

Drew will be the starter at 2B, and the plan is still for Gregorius and Ryan to platoon. Then again, the plan was for Refsnyder and Pirela to split 2B, so who knows what's really going to happen here. They publicly say one thing and then do another.

[Moonlight J]

The up the middle defense is really going to be strong for them

[Don Quixote]

Drew is a steal. I guess he's undervalued by Yankee fans because of his bad year last year. Of course, had he had a good year you wouldn't be getting him for $5M. Drew is an elite defender who will provide value even if he bats zero. Good job by the Yankees diminishing that value though, I guess. I think the Yankee offseason has been a total trainwreck with no discernible direction whatsoever. Of course, I have no faith in Gregorius at all and imagine that Drew as "insurance" is a good idea even if Drew should be the starter anyway. This team looks totally lost at sea to me. I like it.

I view Ryan and Gregorius as being essentially the same player, so I have no idea why the Yankees would carry both. Gregorius is younger and for that reason may have more upside. If Drew isn't hitting, he's the same player, too. Their theme music should be a Led Zep remix entitled "Whole Lotta Glove".

[Judge Jude]

Cashman thinks it's NL 1975, when you can platoon two mediocre players at a D position because you only have 10 pitchers. will be amazed if both Ryan and Didi really get to do this. ooh, SCARY pinch-hitters! lol

their middle INF D will be hugely improved, admittedly.

[Don Quixote]

Hmm, good point.

I just saw some amusing trade ideas from Yankee fans on another site regarding Ryan. Fanboys come up with the most hilarious trade proposals.

I always laugh at True Believer "they should trade so-and-so for so-and-so" scenarios. The one that always makes me chuckle was back in 1997 (?), when the A's were going to trade Mark McGwire. Someone here in Cincinnati proposed a straight-up McGwire-for-Hal Morris deal--and in a newspaper poll, over half of the responders called it a fair trade.

So it's not just Yankees fans, although they are the "best" at this game.

[joncarlos]

Cashman thinks it's NL 1975, when you can platoon two mediocre players at a D position because you only have 10 pitchers. will be amazed if both Ryan and Didi really get to do this. ooh, SCARY pinch-hitters! lol

their middle INF D will be hugely improved, admittedly.

C McCann
IF Teix, Drew, Didi, Headley
OF Beltran, Gardner, Ellsbury
DH A-Rod

Most AL teams carry 4 bench players... they've got Chris Young, Garrett Jones, JR Murphy and Brendan Ryan. I think that works, assuming they feel confident either Ryan or Drew can cover 3B if needed. They've got 3 guys who can cover CF (CY, Ellsbury, Gardner), Garrett Jones can play 1B and even fake it in the outfield. It just doesn't leave room for either of Pirela or Refsnyder if they wanted to work those guys in at the major league level.

[Trautdiggity]

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C McCann
IF Teix, Drew, Didi, Headley
OF Beltran, Gardner, Ellsbury
DH A-Rod

Most AL teams carry 4 bench players... they've got Chris Young, Garrett Jones, JR Murphy and Brendan Ryan. I think that works, assuming they feel confident either Ryan or Drew can cover 3B if needed. They've got 3 guys who can cover CF (CY, Ellsbury, Gardner), Garrett Jones can play 1B and even fake it in the outfield. It just doesn't leave room for either of Pirela or Refsnyder if they wanted to work those guys in at the major league level.

A-rod can cover third "if needed"

[revo]

I always laugh at True Believer "they should trade so-and-so for so-and-so" scenarios. The one that always makes me chuckle was back in 1997 (?), when the A's were going to trade Mark McGwire. Someone here in Cincinnati proposed a straight-up McGwire-for-Hal Morris deal--and in a newspaper poll, over half of the responders called it a fair trade.

So it's not just Yankees fans, although they are the "best" at this game.

An over the hill Hal Morris was better than what the A's actually got for Big Mac.

[Hornsby]

C McCann
IF Teix, Drew, Didi, Headley
OF Beltran, Gardner, Ellsbury
DH A-Rod

Most AL teams carry 4 bench players... they've got Chris Young, Garrett Jones, JR Murphy and Brendan Ryan. I think that works, assuming they feel confident either Ryan or Drew can cover 3B if needed. They've got 3 guys who can cover CF (CY, Ellsbury, Gardner), Garrett Jones can play 1B and even fake it in the outfield. It just doesn't leave room for either of Pirela or Refsnyder if they wanted to work those guys in at the major league level.

Someone was referencing how the Yanks got younger in the off-season. I guess that's true technically, but man, it's still a bunch of geezers.

[BuckyBuckner]

Someone was referencing how the Yanks got younger in the off-season. I guess that's true technically, but man, it's still a bunch of geezers.

What do you consider a geezer? Over 30? They only have 3 guys currently over 35 (Arod, Beltran and Capuano) with Teix and CC about six months away. The entire bullpen is under 30 (Miller will be 30 by the start of the season) and the other three starts are 26 and under. Most of the remaining hitters are in the 30-31 range.

[revo]

What do you consider a geezer? Over 30? They only have 3 guys currently over 35 (Arod, Beltran and Capuano) with Teix and CC about six months away. The entire bullpen is under 30 (Miller will be 30 by the start of the season) and the other three starts are 26 and under. Most of the remaining hitters are in the 30-31 range.

8 of 9 starting hitters are age 31+ (only Gregorius is under 30). The rotation is getting younger, as is the bullpen, but I'd guess they still have one of the oldest teams in the league.

[Hornsby]

What do you consider a geezer? Over 30? They only have 3 guys currently over 35 (Arod, Beltran and Capuano) with Teix and CC about six months away. The entire bullpen is under 30 (Miller will be 30 by the start of the season) and the other three starts are 26 and under. Most of the remaining hitters are in the 30-31 range.

What Revo said...and I say a bunch of geezers and stand by it. Yes, over 30 is a bad thing in baseball terms, and over 30 and fragile is worse. And that's what several Yanks are. None are in their prime, not even close to it...the bullpen is good and the rotation is a group of question marks. Nobody knows if Tanaka's elbow will hold up for more than a few starts, what Pineda is going to do, which CC might show up, if Eovaldi can do more than throw hittable gas...just not pretty, IMO.

[BuckyBuckner]

What Revo said...and I say a bunch of geezers and stand by it. Yes, over 30 is a bad thing in baseball terms, and over 30 and fragile is worse. And that's what several Yanks are. None are in their prime, not even close to it...the bullpen is good and the rotation is a group of question marks. Nobody knows if Tanaka's elbow will hold up for more than a few starts, what Pineda is going to do, which CC might show up, if Eovaldi can do more than throw hittable gas...just not pretty, IMO.

A rotation of question marks, I would agree with that. I guess I never really thought of 30-32 as old but I suppose they are.