Will the DL stint slow him up for rest of season? Anyone want to take a stab at his 2014 value? I've got a trade offer sitting there, Cabrera has a very reasonable salary as a keeper. Other owner is asking for Chapman though, who is even cheaper. Trying to gauge if the added sb's will help enough with the loss of saves.
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Cabrera was hitting quite well this season..I would prefer him over Chapman."I lingered round them, under that benign sky: watched the moths fluttering among the heath and harebells, listened to the soft wind breathing through the grass, and wondered how any one could ever imagine unquiet slumbers for the sleepers in that quiet earth."
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How many speed guys ever give you a consistent 600+ ABs? Doesn't seem like that many. I would be comfortable putting him down for 450 AB, ..270-280 and 50 steals next year. I would be less comfortable assuming he plays more than 60-70 games the rest of the year.
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Originally posted by Ryno84MVP View PostI was trying to trade for him in my NL 4x4 before he got hurt, I was offering Travis Wood and he countered with Clayton Kershaw which ended our discissions.After former Broncos quarterback Brian Griese sprained his ankle and said he was tripped on the stairs of his home by his golden retriever, Bella: “The dog stood up on his hind legs and gave him a push? You might want to get rid of that dog, or put him in the circus, one of the two.”
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Originally posted by Hammer View PostI would imagine his counter was a response to your initial offer which isn't close to equal value. No offense but Cabrera is a way more valuable roto-player than Wood, despite Wood's terrific season.
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Originally posted by Hammer View PostI would imagine his counter was a response to your initial offer which isn't close to equal value. No offense but Cabrera is a way more valuable roto-player than Wood, despite Wood's terrific season.
Wood for Cabrera is a bit insulting.
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Originally posted by Gregg View PostEspecially in 4x4. I would add that I am guessing Kershaw's salary is at value in your league somewhere around $40-$50, and Cabrera is under $12. Cabrera slaughters Kershaw in profit dollars. I am not so sure you should have ended the discussion.
Wood for Cabrera is a bit insulting.
For the rest of this year asking for Kershaw is pretty ridiculous. Much more than offering Wood..."I lingered round them, under that benign sky: watched the moths fluttering among the heath and harebells, listened to the soft wind breathing through the grass, and wondered how any one could ever imagine unquiet slumbers for the sleepers in that quiet earth."
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Originally posted by Mithrandir View PostWho would you be more likely to keep next year, Kershaw at $40-50 or Cabrera for $12?
For the rest of this year asking for Kershaw is pretty ridiculous. Much more than offering Wood...After former Broncos quarterback Brian Griese sprained his ankle and said he was tripped on the stairs of his home by his golden retriever, Bella: “The dog stood up on his hind legs and gave him a push? You might want to get rid of that dog, or put him in the circus, one of the two.”
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Originally posted by Hammer View Postin a 4 by 4x4? Not so ridiculous as Kershaws strikeouts don't matter and SBs are 25% of the offensive categories. Without taking salaries into account I would prefer Kershaw but not by nearly as much as youre making it out. Cabrera has 9 more steals than anyone else in the NL. He also is hittingover .300. Kershaw is pitching great but it isn't like he is alone. Harvey, Miller, Cliff Lee and Zimmerman are all comparable to Kershaw in a 4x4. The injury changes this but under these parameters and if Cabrera want injured, its not a bad offer."I lingered round them, under that benign sky: watched the moths fluttering among the heath and harebells, listened to the soft wind breathing through the grass, and wondered how any one could ever imagine unquiet slumbers for the sleepers in that quiet earth."
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Originally posted by Gregg View PostEspecially in 4x4. I would add that I am guessing Kershaw's salary is at value in your league somewhere around $40-$50, and Cabrera is under $12. Cabrera slaughters Kershaw in profit dollars. I am not so sure you should have ended the discussion.
Wood for Cabrera is a bit insulting.
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Originally posted by Ryno84MVP View PostFor whatever it's worth, neither team is dumping, we are both contenders. Kershaw is done after this year, while Cabrera is $16 and Wood is $1. The team with Cabrera has a 15 SB lead over second and a 34 SB lead over third in that category, and he needs starting pitching badly. He feels like you and thinks that he can do better than Wood, but so far no one has come close to offering him a pitcher with a 2.74 ERA and 1.00 WHIP
$16 SS Cabrera is a little more than I expected, but certainly a keeper at that price. Getting half a year out of Kershaw make the trade much closer.
If Wood keeps it up he is a great keeper for a buck. Still too much of a gamble to take for Cabrera. Plus if you thought he was going to keep it up you wouldn't offer him. No way do you keep lame duck Kershaw over a $1 keeper Wood if you were positive that Wood would keep it up.
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