Everth Cabrera ROS and beyond

[dutch boy]

Will the DL stint slow him up for rest of season? Anyone want to take a stab at his 2014 value? I've got a trade offer sitting there, Cabrera has a very reasonable salary as a keeper. Other owner is asking for Chapman though, who is even cheaper. Trying to gauge if the added sb's will help enough with the loss of saves.

[Moonlight J]

I don't see him back until after the break myself but if he stays healthy, he could have 80 steals between his return & the end of next season.

[Mithrandir]

Cabrera was hitting quite well this season..I would prefer him over Chapman.

[Simon]

There is a chance he gets suspended though. Presumably next year.

[joncarlos]

How many speed guys ever give you a consistent 600+ ABs? Doesn't seem like that many. I would be comfortable putting him down for 450 AB, ..270-280 and 50 steals next year. I would be less comfortable assuming he plays more than 60-70 games the rest of the year.

[overkill94]

There is a chance he gets suspended though. Presumably next year.

This could be quite the roadblock. Otherwise, he seems like Juan Pierre with SS eligibility.

[Ryno84MVP]

I was trying to trade for him in my NL 4x4 before he got hurt, I was offering Travis Wood and he countered with Clayton Kershaw which ended our discissions.

[Hammer]

I was trying to trade for him in my NL 4x4 before he got hurt, I was offering Travis Wood and he countered with Clayton Kershaw which ended our discissions.

I would imagine his counter was a response to your initial offer which isn't close to equal value. No offense but Cabrera is a way more valuable roto-player than Wood, despite Wood's terrific season.

[revo]

I would imagine his counter was a response to your initial offer which isn't close to equal value. No offense but Cabrera is a way more valuable roto-player than Wood, despite Wood's terrific season.

Yep, I agree with this. The perils of attempting to buy (very) low.

[Gregg]

I would imagine his counter was a response to your initial offer which isn't close to equal value. No offense but Cabrera is a way more valuable roto-player than Wood, despite Wood's terrific season.

Especially in 4x4. I would add that I am guessing Kershaw's salary is at value in your league somewhere around $40-$50, and Cabrera is under $12. Cabrera slaughters Kershaw in profit dollars. I am not so sure you should have ended the discussion.

Wood for Cabrera is a bit insulting.

[Mithrandir]

Especially in 4x4. I would add that I am guessing Kershaw's salary is at value in your league somewhere around $40-$50, and Cabrera is under $12. Cabrera slaughters Kershaw in profit dollars. I am not so sure you should have ended the discussion.

Wood for Cabrera is a bit insulting.

Who would you be more likely to keep next year, Kershaw at $40-50 or Cabrera for $12?

For the rest of this year asking for Kershaw is pretty ridiculous. Much more than offering Wood...

[Hammer]

Who would you be more likely to keep next year, Kershaw at $40-50 or Cabrera for $12?

For the rest of this year asking for Kershaw is pretty ridiculous. Much more than offering Wood...

in a 4 by 4x4? Not so ridiculous as Kershaws strikeouts don't matter and SBs are 25% of the offensive categories. Without taking salaries into account I would prefer Kershaw but not by nearly as much as youre making it out. Cabrera has 9 more steals than anyone else in the NL. He also is hittingover .300. Kershaw is pitching great but it isn't like he is alone. Harvey, Miller, Cliff Lee and Zimmerman are all comparable to Kershaw in a 4x4. The injury changes this but under these parameters and if Cabrera want injured, its not a bad offer.

[Mithrandir]

in a 4 by 4x4? Not so ridiculous as Kershaws strikeouts don't matter and SBs are 25% of the offensive categories. Without taking salaries into account I would prefer Kershaw but not by nearly as much as youre making it out. Cabrera has 9 more steals than anyone else in the NL. He also is hittingover .300. Kershaw is pitching great but it isn't like he is alone. Harvey, Miller, Cliff Lee and Zimmerman are all comparable to Kershaw in a 4x4. The injury changes this but under these parameters and if Cabrera want injured, its not a bad offer.

Gotcha...i overlooked the 4x4...my mistake...

[Ryno84MVP]

Especially in 4x4. I would add that I am guessing Kershaw's salary is at value in your league somewhere around $40-$50, and Cabrera is under $12. Cabrera slaughters Kershaw in profit dollars. I am not so sure you should have ended the discussion.

Wood for Cabrera is a bit insulting.

For whatever it's worth, neither team is dumping, we are both contenders. Kershaw is done after this year, while Cabrera is $16 and Wood is $1. The team with Cabrera has a 15 SB lead over second and a 34 SB lead over third in that category, and he needs starting pitching badly. He feels like you and thinks that he can do better than Wood, but so far no one has come close to offering him a pitcher with a 2.74 ERA and 1.00 WHIP

[Gregg]

For whatever it's worth, neither team is dumping, we are both contenders. Kershaw is done after this year, while Cabrera is $16 and Wood is $1. The team with Cabrera has a 15 SB lead over second and a 34 SB lead over third in that category, and he needs starting pitching badly. He feels like you and thinks that he can do better than Wood, but so far no one has come close to offering him a pitcher with a 2.74 ERA and 1.00 WHIP

Can Wood keep it up? I don't think so. Plus he plays for the Cubs so wins will be harder to come by.

$16 SS Cabrera is a little more than I expected, but certainly a keeper at that price. Getting half a year out of Kershaw make the trade much closer.

If Wood keeps it up he is a great keeper for a buck. Still too much of a gamble to take for Cabrera. Plus if you thought he was going to keep it up you wouldn't offer him. No way do you keep lame duck Kershaw over a $1 keeper Wood if you were positive that Wood would keep it up.