Real Mock #1 Discussion Thread

[Weapon1]

I did a players drafted by position thread. Make sure when posting your pick and filling out your roster you double check position eligibility. For instance, Prade doesn't qualify at 2B under the 15-game minimum.

[Hornsby]

I've been using Zola's software and Melky has been the highest ranked player for at least a full round if not two. I happen to think Cabrera's rise had more to do with getting into better shape and getting a better opportunity than he ever really had in New York. As long as he doesn't return to his pudgy and lazy form of a few years back, I feel pretty confident he'll be fine.

And I'm betting that the Melky that we saw in the last 2 seasons was driven by PED's...doesn't mean that he can't hit for a decent average or steal bags for you, but I think that scaling back expectations might be in order.

[revo]

and also that the last two years weren't all PED-driven. The NYY/ATL version of Melky is a real downside. I don't think I'll own him this year (along with Jacoby) because their skills say "take them early" but the question marks say "let someone else have them". At least to me anyway. I need to see both of them at least in Spring Training before I budge on my ranking.

Exactly. The KC/SF Melky is definitely worthy of being selected here over the likes of Hunter Pence, who went just after him. But the NYY/ATL certainly is not worthy, and that would be a disastrous pick. And who really knows which one he'll become this season? How can anyone really have faith that his numbers were not purely PED-driven?

[willthethrill]

I like the Melky pick. He was the top hitter on my list. He's in a much better hitting environment than SF or KC and in a better all around lineup, which I think limits his downside.

[BigJonEmpire]

I really do not believe that PEDs really improve stats much. They help athletes become better athletes but the skills that drive statistical performance are not purely physical. If they were we wouldn't have so many great athletes but lame players getting nothing out of them. I found a long study once on this and it convinced me that this was the case. I'll try to find the link.

[mgwiz22]

Exactly. The KC/SF Melky is definitely worthy of being selected here over the likes of Hunter Pence, who went just after him. But the NYY/ATL certainly is not worthy, and that would be a disastrous pick. And who really knows which one he'll become this season? How can anyone really have faith that his numbers were not purely PED-driven?

It sounds like you don't like my choice of Pence. Perhaps you are right but perhaps you are wrong. I don't love the guy but I would have taken him before Melky.

[BigJonEmpire]

It sounds like you don't like my choice of Pence. Perhaps you are right but perhaps you are wrong. I don't love the guy but I would have taken him before Melky.

Hell, he hates my whole team!

[Piney Boy]

TS Garp timed out. The splinter is up.

[willthethrill]

Too many good pitchers still on the board to ignore any longer. Here's hoping that the knuckleball still dances north of the boarder.

[revo]

It sounds like you don't like my choice of Pence. Perhaps you are right but perhaps you are wrong. I don't love the guy but I would have taken him before Melky.

I think you misread my post -- if BigJon is getting the 2011/2012 Melky, then he made a solid pick who is worthy of being selected over a Hunter Pence. But the 2009/2010 Melky is sure as heck not worthy!


And sorry Jon, don't mean to keep picking on your selections!

[BigJonEmpire]

Too many good pitchers still on the board to ignore any longer. Here's hoping that the knuckleball still dances north of the boarder.

Your pitching run cost me Scherzer! You ^$%#%!

[Weapon1]

TS Garp timed out. The splinter is up.

Not my turn, but just curious, if someone timed out and hasn't made their pick, do we wait 4/6 hours again on them?

[BuckyBuckner]

Not my turn, but just curious, if someone timed out and hasn't made their pick, do we wait 4/6 hours again on them?

No, we keep going.

[TS Garp]

Out of town at a convention -- just made my picks.

[Erik]

The thing about picking on the end is you get to watch a long stream of guys you were hoping to snag get taken.