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  • Shane Bieber — safe trade target?

    What’s the consensus on the outlook for Shane the rest of the year? I have a chance to acquire him but I can’t decide if it’s worth the risk.

  • #2
    Hopefully not at full price - velo is down, Ks are down, getting by with more smoke and mirrors than normal. I dont think the .228 babip holds.

    Still a guy I'd take on my staff but probably not for the price I'd have to pay to get him.

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    • #3
      He asked for Yu Darvish straight up and I just can't make myself do that.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Jefe View Post
        He asked for Yu Darvish straight up and I just can't make myself do that.
        What type of league? Dynasty, keeper or redraft?
        If I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011

        Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
        Martin Luther King, Jr.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by GwynnInTheHall View Post
          What type of league? Dynasty, keeper or redraft?
          It's a keeper league, but this is my last year in it and I have a good team so I'm eventually gonna clean out all my keepers to try to win one last flag.

          Darvish is $20 and Bieber is $26. The fact that he'd do that straight up tells he thinks Bieber is too big a risk.

          Darvish is my #2 SP. Based on preseason rankings anyway.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Jefe View Post
            It's a keeper league, but this is my last year in it and I have a good team so I'm eventually gonna clean out all my keepers to try to win one last flag.

            Darvish is $20 and Bieber is $26. The fact that he'd do that straight up tells he thinks Bieber is too big a risk.

            Darvish is my #2 SP. Based on preseason rankings anyway.
            Oh I thought he was sending you Darvish FOR Bieber. nevermind :P
            If I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011

            Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
            Martin Luther King, Jr.

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            • #7
              I'm concerned about Bieber velo also. I offered him straight for Tork and was rejected flat out with no counter. The offer was about 3 weeks ago. Hell, if I had Tork I would have turn it down also.

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              • #8
                Agreed about corncerns re: Bieber. However, also strongly disagree that Darvish is anything approaching the #2 pitcher. Both are showing troubling signs. Darvish has generally been far overrated, imo. I think I'd rather have Bieber but I guess it's pretty close.
                More American children die by gunfire in a year than on-duty police officers and active duty military.

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                • #9
                  The good news is his BB are down. I have watched several times and his location is very good just would feel better if velo increases.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by pitbull View Post
                    The good news is his BB are down. I have watched several times and his location is very good just would feel better if velo increases.
                    Yeah, for this reason, I'd lean toward Bieber over Darvish. He has the location, and it is not impossible that the velo ticks up with time.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Sour Masher View Post
                      Yeah, for this reason, I'd lean toward Bieber over Darvish. He has the location, and it is not impossible that the velo ticks up with time.
                      Much younger, far fewer innings on the arm, better this year, better last year, better the year before....
                      More American children die by gunfire in a year than on-duty police officers and active duty military.

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