MLB Trade Deadline deals

[madducks]

I love the Pirates moves this deadline, they acquired pitchers that will not only help them this year but they are also controllable with good contracts. Great way to hedge your bets.

It really is surprising that the Pirates finally stepped up to get the top available player in Archer. They usually back away from the bidding wars and settle for the leftovers. But, i guess they really liked the 2nd and 3rd years on Archer's team friendly contract and didn't think they would get an opportunity to own another ace pitcher at that price. And Kela gives them one of their strongest bullpens in years.

[Pauly]

Looking back on the deadline deals...the one that sticks out to me in a negative connotation is the Gausman deal - (Gausman and Darren O’Day for minor leaguers Jean Carlos Encarnacion, Brett Cumberland, Evan Phillips and Bruce Zimmermann and $2.5M international bonus money).

This one is a real head scratcher from the Baltimore POV. The Braves radically underpaid for a guy with great stuff who is controllable until 2020...you dont just trade away a talent like Gausman (albeit an inconsistent and oftentimes struggling one) just for some bonus $$ and to take the bad ODay contract off your hands. I guess his value really fell off a cliff or the Orioles were desperate. rhd or someone can correct me on the status of these prospects but I cant understand how the Orioles could not get a Gohara-level guy at least?

This trade would have been a veto-able one in fantasy leagues...unless I am just wrong, which is totally possible

[chancellor]

Looking back on the deadline deals...the one that sticks out to me in a negative connotation is the Gausman deal - (Gausman and Darren O’Day for minor leaguers Jean Carlos Encarnacion, Brett Cumberland, Evan Phillips and Bruce Zimmermann and $2.5M international bonus money).

This one is a real head scratcher from the Baltimore POV.

You are probably right. I mean, it's the Orioles after all, so this being a really bad deal is a very, very real possibility.

However, I'll take a shot at the Orioles thinking. First, Gausman, while talented, continues to trend worse, and not better. His FIP has climbed for three years straight. His K rate is down, and is also in a 3-year decline. His HR/9 is static at 1.4 - 1.5. His H/9 has risen for four straight years. His WHIP, even with his walk rate improving from last year, is still 1.38. Their conclusion could be, even though he's only 27, is that what he's done in 2017 and is doing in 2018 is roughly what he'll be going forward. So, if their projections is that he'll be a 4-4.5 ERA, 1.35 - 1.4 WHIP, 8K/9 type pitcher long term, their best shot at trade value is while he's still controllable.

Clearly, they recognized the hosed up O'Day contract could not be given away without eating a lot of money or trading something of value with him. So they decided the best move for a salary dump was packaging him with a SP that was perceived to have value.

In addition, it appears the O's have their eye on one or more players that must be funded from the International bonus pool, so the added money will give them an edge on a player or two that they believe they may have to bid up.

So, while I suspect your logic is right, and the O's seriously undersold, there may be a plan there, especially if they make a big move in the international pool.

[revo]

Looking back on the deadline deals...the one that sticks out to me in a negative connotation is the Gausman deal - (Gausman and Darren O’Day for minor leaguers Jean Carlos Encarnacion, Brett Cumberland, Evan Phillips and Bruce Zimmermann and $2.5M international bonus money).

This one is a real head scratcher from the Baltimore POV. The Braves radically underpaid for a guy with great stuff who is controllable until 2020...you dont just trade away a talent like Gausman (albeit an inconsistent and oftentimes struggling one) just for some bonus $$ and to take the bad ODay contract off your hands. I guess his value really fell off a cliff or the Orioles were desperate. rhd or someone can correct me on the status of these prospects but I cant understand how the Orioles could not get a Gohara-level guy at least?

This trade would have been a veto-able one in fantasy leagues...unless I am just wrong, which is totally possible

I agree with you 100%.

In addition, I always find it interesting that while the Yankees and Red Sox will rarely if ever trade with each other, the other AL East inhabitants often have no issue whatsoever making deals with them. They just can't shake that loser mentality!

[revo]

Cards claim Tyson Ross off waivers from SD. Padres got nothing in return except salary relief of just $500k. WTF?

[fuhrdog]

Cards claim Tyson Ross off waivers from SD. Padres got nothing in return except salary relief of just $500k. WTF?

Real head scratcher. Not that they could get a lot for him but with some of the guys who did get moved for "something"...this is just weird.

[Judge Jude]

Lyles claimed on waivers by Brewers

anyone feel lucky on Robbie Erlin?

[Mithrandir]

Lyles claimed on waivers by Brewers

anyone feel lucky on Robbie Erlin?

Absolutely not.

[Judge Jude]

well, of you YOU wouldn't feel lucky!


how about the rest of the class? has pitched very well of late and doesn't look fluky
but may not go deep in G for a bad team to boot

[revo]

Real head scratcher. Not that they could get a lot for him but with some of the guys who did get moved for "something"...this is just weird.

Yeah, bizarre. Not even a PTBNL or even cash. Not even a box of baseballs. I'm shocked they just let him walk for nothing. I mean, they couldn’t even get a low-level prospect for him before the 7/31 deadline? They couldn’t package him with Lyles for something? Makes no sense.

[Mithrandir]

That Schoop trade paying dividends for everyone!!

[revo]

Rappin’ Fernando Rodney to the A’s

[revo]

Justin Bour to the Phillies

[TranaGreg]

Justin Bour to the Phillies

wow ... where will he find ABs?

feeling very lucky that I traded him last week.

[revo]

wow ... where will he find ABs?

feeling very lucky that I traded him last week.

Great question. He'll probably be a bat off the bench.