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  • Revo, PMed you my picks. Thanks.
    “Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.”

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    • I was wondering when Familia would go. I guess the threat of an impending suspension being held over his head has suppressed his value, but arguably he's the 3rd best closer out there.

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      • Originally posted by revo View Post
        I was wondering when Familia would go. I guess the threat of an impending suspension being held over his head has suppressed his value, but arguably he's the 3rd best closer out there.
        I have to confess that I forgot about the potential suspension. I guess that's why we do they mock drafts.
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        • Originally posted by BuckyBuckner View Post
          I have to confess that I forgot about the potential suspension. I guess that's why we do they mock drafts.
          Still a good pick at this stage. At worst, what does he miss, 30 games?

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          • Originally posted by revo View Post
            Still a good pick at this stage. At worst, what does he miss, 30 games?
            At least 30 games, according to RotoWorld:

            Kristie Ackert of the New York Daily News hears from industry sources that Jeurys Familia's suspension is likely to be at least 30 games.
            Familia's domestic assault charge was dismissed Thursday after his wife, Bianca Rivas, declined to press charges following an incident on October 31. There's precedent for a 30-game suspension, as that's what Aroldis Chapman received last year after his girlfriend declined to press charges after a domestic assault incident. There's no timetable for when Major League Baseball will officially announce a decision. The Mets will use Addison Reed to close games while Familia is away.
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            • Originally posted by BuckyBuckner View Post
              At least 30 games, according to RotoWorld:

              Kristie Ackert of the New York Daily News hears from industry sources that Jeurys Familia's suspension is likely to be at least 30 games.
              Familia's domestic assault charge was dismissed Thursday after his wife, Bianca Rivas, declined to press charges following an incident on October 31. There's precedent for a 30-game suspension, as that's what Aroldis Chapman received last year after his girlfriend declined to press charges after a domestic assault incident. There's no timetable for when Major League Baseball will officially announce a decision. The Mets will use Addison Reed to close games while Familia is away.
              While Familia has been very good, on stats alone, Reed has actually been the better pitcher of the two since he's been in NY. I wonder what happens if Reed is successful in April, he was lights out last year and he has been a closer in the past. What are the chances that Familia never sees that closer role again?

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              • Originally posted by Ken View Post
                While Familia has been very good, on stats alone, Reed has actually been the better pitcher of the two since he's been in NY. I wonder what happens if Reed is successful in April, he was lights out last year and he has been a closer in the past. What are the chances that Familia never sees that closer role again?
                I would doubt he keeps the job.

                Familia led the majors in saves last season and has proven he can handle the role. I understand what you're saying about Reed, and while it's true that Familia has been exemplary but Reed's stats have been better, he is a FA after the year and is likely a goner.

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                • Originally posted by revo View Post
                  I would doubt he keeps the job.

                  Familia led the majors in saves last season and has proven he can handle the role. I understand what you're saying about Reed, and while it's true that Familia has been exemplary but Reed's stats have been better, he is a FA after the year and is likely a goner.
                  Isn't that last sentence actually a plus for Reed in the closer role? Keeping Reed in the closers role reduces Familia's saves which reduces arbitration price down for next year. They don't care about Reed's price in 2018 because he's gone anyway.

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                  • Peraza pick intrigues me - does he have a starting role?

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                    • Originally posted by Ken View Post
                      Peraza pick intrigues me - does he have a starting role?
                      not right now
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                      • Yeah, i really like Morales in Toronto too. I was hoping his lack of a position would allow him to make it back to me. I guess not. Nice pick!
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                        • Robertson is on my do not touch list this season. He's got three yuuuuge red flags: subpar performance in 2016; the risk of being on a rebuilding team who is dying to trade him; and the risk of his set-up guy being much better than he is.

                          Not saying he won't skate past all three, but that's too much of a risk for me this year.

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                          • Man, it was a coin flip between Hill and Fulmer for me.

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                            • Originally posted by revo View Post
                              Robertson is on my do not touch list this season. He's got three yuuuuge red flags: subpar performance in 2016; the risk of being on a rebuilding team who is dying to trade him; and the risk of his set-up guy being much better than he is.

                              Not saying he won't skate past all three, but that's too much of a risk for me this year.
                              Agreed.
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                              • Originally posted by joncarlos View Post
                                Man, it was a coin flip between Hill and Fulmer for me.
                                There was a pretty good article on Fulmer in last week's Sports Illustrated. He spends some of his off-season working as a plumber.
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