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  • Carlos Gomez designated for assignment

    WOW !!!


  • #2
    Could you imagine this news two or three years ago?

    Last year Houston traded Adrian Houser, Domingo Santana, Josh Hader, and Brett Phillips to get Gomez and Fiers. Ouch.
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    • #3
      WW fodder

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      • #4
        Is he worth holding? If he's in limbo for 10 days I guess I have to drop him or trade him for an upgrade. Short bench and I need SB.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by kawaise View Post
          Could you imagine this news two or three years ago?
          Yeh.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by onejayhawk View Post
            Yeh.

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            Whaat?

            Two years ago, he hit .284/.356/.477 with 23 HRs and 34 SBs, and three years ago he hit .284/.338/.506 with 24 HRs and 40 SBs. Please explain.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by revo View Post
              Whaat?

              Two years ago, he hit .284/.356/.477 with 23 HRs and 34 SBs, and three years ago he hit .284/.338/.506 with 24 HRs and 40 SBs. Please explain.
              And two years before that? This guy was a poster child for unrewarded athleticism. Why be surprised if he reverts?

              This was his 2012 Fangraph Profile:
              Profile: Gomez picked up 16 steals in just 258 plate appearances last season, but this was the extent of his fantasy usefulness. He continues to strike out too much to be much of a threat at the plate (24.8% of plate appearances), even though he has definite raw power, which he showed with eight home runs and 11 doubles in his platoon role. Look for him to stay in a similar role next season, batting against lefties and playing possibly the best defensive center field in the league. (Jack Moore)

              The Quick Opinion: Gomez can rack up steals any time he's getting on base, but there are two problems. First, he's not very good at getting on base, and second, he's locked up in the short side of a platoon with Nyjer Morgan.

              The guy was 27 when he broke out. He's now the wrong side of 30. Is such a collapse unusual? Yes. Completely out of bounds. Nah.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by onejayhawk View Post
                And two years before that? This guy was a poster child for unrewarded athleticism. Why be surprised if he reverts?

                This was his 2012 Fangraph Profile:
                Profile: Gomez picked up 16 steals in just 258 plate appearances last season, but this was the extent of his fantasy usefulness. He continues to strike out too much to be much of a threat at the plate (24.8% of plate appearances), even though he has definite raw power, which he showed with eight home runs and 11 doubles in his platoon role. Look for him to stay in a similar role next season, batting against lefties and playing possibly the best defensive center field in the league. (Jack Moore)

                The Quick Opinion: Gomez can rack up steals any time he's getting on base, but there are two problems. First, he's not very good at getting on base, and second, he's locked up in the short side of a platoon with Nyjer Morgan.

                The guy was 27 when he broke out. He's now the wrong side of 30. Is such a collapse unusual? Yes. Completely out of bounds. Nah.

                J
                Yes, he broke out late into his playing career, which is not unusual, but the initial question was could we have "imagined this news 2 or 3 years ago," not five years ago. Heck, you could dig up a pre-2010 Fangraphs profile on Jose Bautista and see what it says.

                Gomez was an 8.5 WAR player in 2013 (#2 in MLB behind Mike Trout) with the majority of it coming on defense. This season, his whole game collapsed. I'm sure the Astros didn't see this coming!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by revo View Post
                  Yes, he broke out late into his playing career, which is not unusual, but the initial question was could we have "imagined this news 2 or 3 years ago," not five years ago. Heck, you could dig up a pre-2010 Fangraphs profile on Jose Bautista and see what it says.

                  Gomez was an 8.5 WAR player in 2013 (#2 in MLB behind Mike Trout) with the majority of it coming on defense. This season, his whole game collapsed. I'm sure the Astros didn't see this coming!
                  You're supposed to just say Hodor and move on.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by BuckyBuckner View Post
                    You're supposed to just say Hodor and move on.
                    I'm not moving anywhere.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by revo View Post
                      Yes, he broke out late into his playing career, which is not unusual, but the initial question was could we have "imagined this news 2 or 3 years ago," not five years ago. Heck, you could dig up a pre-2010 Fangraphs profile on Jose Bautista and see what it says.

                      Gomez was an 8.5 WAR player in 2013 (#2 in MLB behind Mike Trout) with the majority of it coming on defense. This season, his whole game collapsed. I'm sure the Astros didn't see this coming!
                      The Brewers did.

                      There were articles in the spring about how he was seeing more pitches in the strike zone and still not hitting, see below. Also, his defense went south almost as fast as his bat.
                      In 2015, when making a max-effort throw, Gomez averaged 98.3 mph. In 2016, just 92.5 mph.


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                      Last edited by onejayhawk; 08-14-2016, 07:33 PM.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by onejayhawk View Post
                        The Brewers did.

                        There were articles in the spring about how he was seeing more pitches in the strike zone and still not hitting, see below. Also, his defense went south almost as fast as his bat.
                        In 2015, when making a max-effort throw, Gomez averaged 98.3 mph. In 2016, just 92.5 mph.


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                        You mean the GM who was removed from his job just a couple of weeks later?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by revo View Post
                          You mean the GM who was removed from his job just a couple of weeks later?
                          It wasn't for getting this one wrong.

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