Shandler's new format - "Rotisserie 500"

[Hammer]

sorry guys, the ship has sailed for me. We are coming into prime time draft season and I wont be able to allocate enough time to this.

[Piney Boy]

I can be up for this depending on how the draft is done. This sounds like fun.

[ThatRogue]

My league draft is April 2nd. I'd be interested, if we hold the draft any time after that. It would also depend on stat categories. (I too prefer WHIP over ERA, and see no reason to involve Holds for any reason. LOL)

[Flyman]

Let me give it some thought. I'm a stickler for rules and I hate loopholes, so it might be a lot to get together between now and the season, along with our prep for our real leagues, but I'd be curious to try it out.

I have my own AL-only, and NL-only leagues, so I'd prefer a mixed league so it's that much more different for me, plus I think that would make for fewer rules, i.e. handling of players crossing over and whatnot.

Seems to me that the best way to discover and eliminate loopholes would be to have a pilot league with some RJers just to try it out. Be competitive and try to win, but focus more on seeing how the league works and how it can be done better. Work out the kinks.

[Hawks Nest]

Just joined the site....Would be interested in "500" roto concept. Please keep us updated!

[TopChuckie]

Seems to me that the best way to discover and eliminate loopholes would be to have a pilot league with some RJers just to try it out. Be competitive and try to win, but focus more on seeing how the league works and how it can be done better. Work out the kinks.

Are you saying you would be in Flyman?

-Who's In

1. joncarlos
2. TopChuckie
3. wannabegriffey
4. BigJonEmpire
5. mjl
6. mgwiz22?
7. gcstomp
8. SPF?
9. ThatRogue
10. Flyman?
11. Hawks Nest
12.

[netboy47]

I'd be interested...always looking for a new challenge.

[TopChuckie]

I'd be interested...always looking for a new challenge.

-Who's In

1. joncarlos
2. TopChuckie
3. wannabegriffey
4. BigJonEmpire
5. mjl
6. mgwiz22?
7. laron
8. SPF?
9. Piney Boy (Sorry I missed Piney Boy's show of interest.)
10. ThatRogue
11. Flyman?
12. Hawks Nest
13. netboy47
14. BuckyBuckner

Ok, if all the guys who were interested a few weeks ago are still interested, and all the question marks are in, then we have 12...?

[BuckyBuckner]

-Who's In

1. joncarlos
2. TopChuckie
3. wannabegriffey
4. BigJonEmpire
5. mjl
6. mgwiz22?
7. gcstomp
8. SPF?
9. ThatRogue
10. Flyman?
11. Hawks Nest
12. netboy47

Ok, if all the guys who were interested a few weeks ago are still interested, and all the question marks are in, then we have 12...?

If one of the question marks don't join let me know. I might be interested.

[wannabegriffey]

If one of the question marks don't join let me know. I might be interested.

Wouldn't the league be better with more teams if we are using the entire mlb landscape?

[TopChuckie]

Wouldn't the league be better with more teams if we are using the entire mlb landscape?

Yeah, I was just coming back to say/adjust for that.

ETA: BTW, I'm taking that as your re-confirmation.

[TopChuckie]

We still need to work some things out and most of it should probably wait until we know who all in definitely in, but in the interest of moving this along and not making it more of a chore than necessary, unless someone strongly objects, I think we should go with the following settings:

-Mixed League
-4x4 Stat categories:
* Home Runs
* Stolen Bases
* On Base Percentage
* Runs Produced (R + RBI - HR)
* Wins
* Strikeouts
* Earned Run Average
* (Saves + Holds - Blown Saves)
(I'm not really crazy about Shandler's categories either, but rather than going through a discussion and vote on new categories, since it's Ron's game, we should use his categories at least for this first go around. It will expedite the organization process, minimize unforeseen loopholes, and since we're using Shandler's dollar values which are based on those stat categories, it's probably best not to F with it.)

We'll still need to decide on a website that can handle these stats, free is probably best in case this falls apart at any point, so ESPN or Yahoo I guess? I'm willing to co-commish, as at this point in particular I can't take on the entire load because I commish my own two leagues, and I have never commished an ESPN or Yahoo league, only CBS and TQStats. So who wants to take the reins as far as website setup and roster input and whatnot?

[gcstomp]

When I expressed interest, in late january, I had more time. I cant swing this now. Please fill my slot.

[laron]

I'm in. I vote for mixed, and free hosting as well. Vote for yahoo but am fine with ESPN if it's easier to setup. I can co-comish if it's Yahoo and help setup, don't know if you can swing those composite/calculated categories though. Am fine with leaving all other rules as outlined in article.

[netboy47]

We still need to work some things out and most of it should probably wait until we know who all in definitely in, but in the interest of moving this along and not making it more of a chore than necessary, unless someone strongly objects, I think we should go with the following settings:

-Mixed League
-4x4 Stat categories:
* Home Runs
* Stolen Bases
* On Base Percentage
* Runs Produced (R + RBI - HR)
* Wins
* Strikeouts
* Earned Run Average
* (Saves + Holds - Blown Saves)
(I'm not really crazy about Shandler's categories either, but rather than going through a discussion and vote on new categories, since it's Ron's game, we should use his categories at least for this first go around. It will expedite the organization process, minimize unforeseen loopholes, and since we're using Shandler's dollar values which are based on those stat categories, it's probably best not to F with it.)

We'll still need to decide on a website that can handle these stats, free is probably best in case this falls apart at any point, so ESPN or Yahoo I guess? I'm willing to co-commish, as at this point in particular I can't take on the entire load because I commish my own two leagues, and I have never commished an ESPN or Yahoo league, only CBS and TQStats. So who wants to take the reins as far as website setup and roster input and whatnot?

Neither ESPN or Yahoo can handle two of the categories: Runs Produced and SV+HLD-BS. And looking at CBS, it appears that they can't handle it either. OnRoto has Runs Produced but not SV+HLD-BS, but from what everyone has said on this site, they'll customize to fit the exact needs of the league. However, it costs $100.

For free on ESPN, we could substitute OPS or Total Bases for Runs Produced and replace SV+HLD-BS with SV+HLD. ESPN also has Bill James' Runs Created as a category, but that might be hard to quantify.

Thoughts?