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    How many players are typically drafted in "shallow" leagues? What would you consider standard settings for a 10-team league that makes it shallow? How about "deep" leagues? What sort of roster setup would be required for a 10-team league to be deep?

    I ask because I'm in a 8-team league where 224 players will be rostered. Will that be deep, shallow or somewhere in the middle?

  • #2
    Id call a deep league a 12-team NL-only with 23-25 starting spots and 13-17 reserve spots.

    And shallow would be 10-team that uses both nl and al.

    I'd even call shallow a 16-team that uses nl and al

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    • #3
      To make a 10 team deep, it has to be either A.L. or N.L. only.

      25 man rosters with 15 man reserves, and all reserves have to be from NL or AL major/minor league affiliates (no drafting international/college/hs) would make it reasonably deep. Add a 5-man DL to make it deep like a 12-team league.

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      • #4
        8 team league is very shallow - 12 team mixed is a standard shallow league

        There are many here that play 23 man roster 12 team - single league NL or AL - those are considered deep leagues

        but play whatever type you want to play - all of the other owners will have the same advantages/disadvantages

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        • #5
          Originally posted by swampdragon View Post
          8 team league is very shallow - 12 team mixed is a standard shallow league

          There are many here that play 23 man roster 12 team - single league NL or AL - those are considered deep leagues

          but play whatever type you want to play - all of the other owners will have the same advantages/disadvantages
          Exactly. On all counts.

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          • #6
            To answer your question, yes, your league is shallow. That doesn't necessarily mean it's easy, but it's certainly not deep by any measure. For an 8-team AL/NL only league, you'd have to draft 336 players and have rosters of at least 42 to even approach "deep." For a mixed league, you'd need twice that, rosters of 84, 672 players drafted. Silliness.

            10-12 team AL/NL only is deep.
            20-24 team mixed is deep.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by swampdragon View Post
              8 team league is very shallow - 12 team mixed is a standard shallow league

              There are many here that play 23 man roster 12 team - single league NL or AL - those are considered deep leagues

              but play whatever type you want to play - all of the other owners will have the same advantages/disadvantages
              I suspect he's asking more from the standpoint of seeing articles on fantasy sites that say "Deep League Sleepers" that recommend someone like a Tyler Goeddel or Travis Shaw and wondering if he should be grabbing them.

              So you're playing the standard Roto 23-man active roster and 5 reserves, right? Really shallow leagues are like the Yahoo/ESPN defaults - Yahoo uses 12 teams, one catcher, no MI/CI, three OF, two UT, and eight pitchers. So you're deeper than that, but not by a ton. I think yours still qualifies as shallow. As Swamp said, that's not inherently bad or anything though.

              I would generally define "deep" as "hitters without a starting job will need to be drafted". In a 12-mixed with the normal 23 actives, you don't need to do that. Around 18-team mixed or 10-team only is where it starts getting deep.
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              • #8
                Thanks for all the feedback. Having played in 10-12 team leagues I was just wondering how the slight increase in roster size affected this league. I figured it was still "shallow". I know there is no right way, I was just wondering.

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