Deal or no Deal?

[Mithrandir]

So are any of the following, in a package, worth trading Noah or Dozier for? I'm get the consensus that deGrom shouldn't be touched.

H Olviera 2b
K Marte 3b
B Burns 1b
J Reddick 3b
K Morales 1b
J Bradley 1b

S Doolittle 2b
J Ross 1b
C Martinez 4b

I would much rather have Noah and Dozier at their prices than any of these players, except for Morales, maybe.

Depends on how much you believe in Dozier and Morales.

[Gregg]

I like C-Mart and Marte. I think Doolittle, Morales, Reddick could all crack your top 10. So yes I would say there's a package here that could work. I'd honestly rather trade Dozier. Can you get 3 or 4 guys?

I agree with this. I would add Olivera to the list as well.

I would trade Noah if I could C-Mart and any two of these players.

[GwynnInTheHall]

see the one I'm scared of is Dozier, plus after last season I'm really off mid to low avgs (we still use avg.) I could probably trade noah or Dozier and say Pujols, for cmart and 2-4 others. FWIW I have always like Morales, i targeted him his rookie season when everyone else slept on him. Had him the year he broke his leg after the slam. So hoping this is his return to studliness.

[Gregg]

see the one I'm scared of is Dozier, plus after last season I'm really off mid to low avgs (we still use avg.) I could probably trade noah or Dozier and say Pujols, for cmart and 2-4 others. FWIW I have always like Morales, i targeted him his rookie season when everyone else slept on him. Had him the year he broke his leg after the slam. So hoping this is his return to studliness.

How much risk is there with a $6 2b that will score 100 runs, hit 20 hrs and steal 12 bases. Yep he will only hit .235 -240, but you can live with a couple of those on your team if you plan for it.

I would not want to trade Dozier and Pujols in this deal. What does Noah get you by himself?

[GwynnInTheHall]

How much risk is there with a $6 2b that will score 100 runs, hit 20 hrs and steal 12 bases. Yep he will only hit .235 -240, but you can live with a couple of those on your team if you plan for it.

I would not want to trade Dozier and Pujols in this deal. What does Noah get you by himself?

not sure, but this is how I am looking at it...is Pujols 24 and Dozier 6 better than kendry, olivera, marte, c mart and doolittle for a total of 12?

[joncarlos]

not sure, but this is how I am looking at it...is Pujols 24 and Dozier 6 better than kendry, olivera, marte, c mart and doolittle for a total of 12?

I mean, I would say no. I'm not a huge Pujols guy. He probably won't even be ready to start the season. He's still got power but that's really all that's left at this point.

[GwynnInTheHall]

So here's my options (other than standing pat)

DeGrome 4 for Kendry, Olivera, C Mart, Marte and Doolittle total of 12

or

Dozier 6 for Stanton 38 and Scherzer 33

Keeps look like this post trade:
#1
Grandal, Yasmani 2 c
Morales 1
Moustakas, Mike 9 b
Marte 3
Dozier 6

CMart 4
Estrada, Marco 3 B
Syndergaard, Noah 5 C
Storen, Drew 1 b
Doolittle 2

$37 total

#2

Grandal, Yasmani 2 c
Pujols, Albert 24 b
Moustakas, Mike 9 b
Kemp, Matt 18 C
Stanton 38

Scherzer 33
deGrom, Jacob 4 C
Estrada, Marco 3 B
Syndergaard, Noah 5 C
Storen, Drew 1 b

$137 total

Thoughts?

[GwynnInTheHall]

So here's my options (other than standing pat)

DeGrome 4 for Kendry, Olivera, C Mart, Marte and Doolittle total of 12

or

Dozier 6 for Stanton 38 and Scherzer 33

Keeps look like this post trade:
#1
Grandal, Yasmani 2 c
Morales 1
Olivera 2
Moustakas, Mike 9 b
Marte 3
Dozier 6

CMart 4
Syndergaard, Noah 5 C
Storen, Drew 1 b
Doolittle 2

$36 total

#2

Grandal, Yasmani 2 c
Pujols, Albert 24 b
Moustakas, Mike 9 b
Kemp, Matt 18 C
Stanton 38

Scherzer 33
deGrom, Jacob 4 C
Estrada, Marco 3 B
Syndergaard, Noah 5 C
Storen, Drew 1 b

$137 total

Thoughts?

[Hornsby]

I'm a little less averse to carrying a high payroll than most, so keep that in mind. I'd probably go with option #2, doing the Dozier trade. It's not a bad way to go into the season, having a 40 homer bat and a 200+ K arm on your team. You might be chasing speed, but that's pretty much the position that anyone who doesn't have Gordon or Hamilton will be in.

While it's great to have a lot to spend, it doesn't guarantee that you'll actually get any of the available talent you want...I've seen plenty of guys drop out of the bidding, only to find themselves with WAY too much money to spend on middling players.

[joncarlos]

I wouldn't do the Degrom deal. No way.

I don't love the Dozier deal, but I do like the idea of locking up 2 studs.

[Gregg]

Somehow I missed this one. What did you end up doing?

I like #2. That is a good team going into the auction with plenty of money to spend.

[GwynnInTheHall]

I haven't done either. IF I do anything it will be #2. Still have my original set of 9 keepers you guys helped pick out in the original part of this thread.

[GwynnInTheHall]

Well I chose not to make either of those deals.

I now have someone who wants Thor at $5c for 2-3 of the following:

Mesoraco $3c
Lindor $5c
Pederson $7c
Springer $10C
Urias $5m

Thor is projecting 15-20 in early pubs,

Thoughts?

[joncarlos]

Well I chose not to make either of those deals.

I now have someone who wants Thor at $5c for 2-3 of the following:

Mesoraco $3c
Lindor $5c
Pederson $7c
Springer $10C
Urias $5m

Thor is projecting 15-20 in early pubs,

Thoughts?

The "C" means they're done after this year, right? I'm a big fan of Springer and I like Lindor or Joc at those prices. Really like Thor a lot. But hitters are more stable and you could use more keepers. Guessing shortstops could be tough to find.

[GwynnInTheHall]

The "C" means they're done after this year, right? I'm a big fan of Springer and I like Lindor or Joc at those prices. Really like Thor a lot. But hitters are more stable and you could use more keepers. Guessing shortstops could be tough to find.

Yes, but they can be extended.

So, Springer, Joc and Lindor for Thor?

If that's a deal do I extend any of them?