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**Sharky** · 06-08-2015, 01:21 PM

Great fun as always, rhd. Thanks for posting.

I can pick my prospects with eyes closed (they're the ones that have fallen farthest on this list!). Thank you very much, Micah Johnson and Jesse Winker!

**Onions** · 06-08-2015, 08:32 PM

Thanks, rhd. Your threads are my favorite part of this site.

Any thoughts on Eddy Julio Martinez? Seen some baseball folks rave about him..

**revo** · 06-08-2015, 10:04 PM

I love your posts, but are you becoming too reactionary to MLB roster moves? For instance, Delino DeShields was a Rule V pick, so he's not the prospect he once was, but he has had some initial success at the MLB level. Is he anything more than a Jarrod Dyson type taking advantage of his playing time, or do you believe many may have misjudged him? Is he a long-term answer or a flash in the pan?

I understand this is a roto list, which is great, but do MLers who get called up get a major boost up the list?

**rhd** · 06-08-2015, 11:16 PM

Originally posted by revo View Post

I love your posts, but are you becoming too reactionary to MLB roster moves? For instance, Delino DeShields was a Rule V pick, so he's not the prospect he once was, but he has had some initial success at the MLB level. Is he anything more than a Jarrod Dyson type taking advantage of his playing time, or do you believe many may have misjudged him? Is he a long-term answer or a flash in the pan?

I understand this is a roto list, which is great, but do MLers who get called up get a major boost up the list?

Thanx for the response, revo.

Reactionary? I guess so but you have to be to a large extent. Playing time is one of the most important things in roto. If I already had a player ranked relatively high on the list, if he figures to get major MLB playing time he has to shoot up the list. Doesnt apply to guys like Hanser Alberto who was just a fringe prospect and doesnt figure to have a significant MLB role. DeShields has been a much maligned guy over the past few years but I kept him on my list the whole time because I thought he had a reasonable chance to get playing time and he has major SB potential. Now he is starting and performing pretty well at least from a roto standpoint. I have him producing about $18 worth of value in one of my leagues. And what OFer in the Rangers' system that is nearly ready for MLB is any better? So he'll continue to play as long as he produces. Even as a 4th OFer he's still valuable a la Dyson/Rajai/Gose. Whatever you think of his long-term value he is a very desirable roto commodity rt now. Arguably, I should have him even higher. I dont know if he'll keep it up but he's always had talent and you have to play the hot hand. Ditto w Billy Burns ($14 worth of value), who no longer is eligible. REally this the list is mostly the same as it always was, which is personal list of who I'd take in what order to help my roto team. Guys like DeShields and Burns can help you win a title so they get ranked high.

Were people wrong about DeShields? I dont know but makeup concerns were one of the big reasons people got down on him. I tend to think makeup concerns often are overblown and I tend to discount these unless there is concrete evidence that you can point to like arrests/convictions or drug suspensions.

**rhd** · 06-08-2015, 11:18 PM

Originally posted by Onions View Post

Thanks, rhd. Your threads are my favorite part of this site.

Any thoughts on Eddy Julio Martinez? Seen some baseball folks rave about him..

Thanx for the response, Onions.

Frankly I've never heard of him. He's not listed on BA's Top 500 draft prospects. What do you know about him?

**rhd** · 06-08-2015, 11:20 PM

Originally posted by Sharky View Post

Great fun as always, rhd. Thanks for posting.

I can pick my prospects with eyes closed (they're the ones that have fallen farthest on this list!). Thank you very much, Micah Johnson and Jesse Winker!

Thanx, as always Sharky. Just be glad you dont own D.J. Peterson

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**Onions** · 06-09-2015, 12:09 AM

20-year-old Cuban OF, who MLB Pipeline recently named it's #1 international prospect. http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2015?list=int

Here's their write-up:

"Eddy Julio Martinez | Rank: 1 Hometown: Cuba, Las Tunas
Position: OF Age: 20 DOB: 1/18/1995
Bats: R Throws: R Height: 6'2" Weight: 195 lb.
VIDEO
Scouting grades: Hit: 60 | Power: 60 | Run: 70 | Arm: 60 | Field: 60
Think a young Andruw Jones. That's how some scouts have described the 20-year-old center fielder from Cuba. Evaluators like his body -- described as solid and compact -- and his athleticism. But there's a lot more to like.

In the batter's box, Martinez has a quick and compact power stroke. He's shown the ability to hit home runs to all fields and work the counts. He's speedy out of the box and shows base-stealing potential. Described as "hard-nosed," Martinez is aggressive and not afraid to take an extra-base.

Martinez has shown good instincts on defense and the ability to cover the gaps in the outfield. Those skills combined with a playable and accurate arm make scouts believe he will stay in center field and could be in the big leagues in after a couple of seasons in the Minor Leagues. Scouts also like that Martinez has experience playing for Cuba's junior national teams in Mexico and Venezuela and that he spent two seasons with Las Tunas in Cuba's Serie Nacional, the island's top league.

Martinez, who was declared a free agent by Major League Baseball in May, is eligible to sign. However, it is unclear if he will sign during the current international signing period or wait until the next period that begins on July 2. He is currently training in the Dominican Republic.

The Cubs, Yankees, Angels, Blue Jays, Nationals, Rockies, Tigers, Dodgers, Giants and White Sox are among the teams that have expressed serious interest in Martinez."

Chris Crawford (BP) today in his chat said the following:

"Eric (NY): Who not in this draft is the next big thing? Vlad Guerrero Jr? Someone else?

Christopher Crawford: Eddy Julio Martinez. The kid is a special, special, special talent. Note that I usually only use two specials for the really special ones. He has a chance to be...well...special."

"Festivus313 (Phoenix): Where would Eddy Julio Martinez, Yadier Alcarez, Norge Ruiz and Lucius Fix rank for you in this draft if eligible?

Christopher Crawford: Martinez would be at 1, Fox would be in the top 10, I don't have enough on the other two to give a concrete answer. Sorry."

"Silverback38 (VA): Is Lourdes Gourriel the best international hitting prospect or can you think of someone better?

Christopher Crawford: Martinez to me has more upside offensively, but Gourriel is also awful good."

"Mike (Cali): Is Eddy Julio Martinez the next Puig?

Christopher Crawford: Maybe, the centerfield version though. I've heard Andruw Jones comps, and those make a lot of sense."

"Craig (New Jersey): Eddy Julio Martinez or Yoan Moncada

Christopher Crawford: Moncada, but just barely."

Lots of love from both sources, so I'm trying to figure out how potentially valuable he might end up being.

**rhd** · 06-09-2015, 05:00 AM

Thanx for that, Onions. Didnt realize he was Cuban. But BA doesnt list him in their top 20 still-in-Cuba prospects either. Kiley McDaniel doesnt list him in his July 2 prospects either. In fact, I couldnt find anything about him on either the BA or FG website. And I dont know anyone that knows Cuban guys more than BA's Ben Badler, and Kiley seems to have good knowledge about these guys, too. But the other guys listed in MLB's top 10 are listed in BA's list. I'm not familiar w Christopher Crawford but maybe he's scooped this guy. I'll add him to my list.

**Onions** · 06-09-2015, 05:24 AM

Here's a link to Jesse Sanchez's (MLB.com) story on him: https://twitter.com/jessesanchezmlb/...43837494837248

And a link to a MLB Trade Rumors article relaying Kiley McDaniel's comments about him: http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/0...ata-judge.html

**rhd** · 06-09-2015, 05:34 AM

Originally posted by Onions View Post

Here's a link to Jesse Sanchez's (MLB.com) story on him: https://twitter.com/jessesanchezmlb/...43837494837248

And a link to a MLB Trade Rumors article relaying Kiley McDaniel's comments about him: http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/0...ata-judge.html

Thanx again. I must have missed that comment by Kiley, which could have been easy to do since it looks like a short comment and he produces so much content. But I'll wait until I hear more about him before I add him to the Top 150. Sorry that I had no info for you.

**rhd** · 06-09-2015, 12:30 PM

Originally posted by Onions View Post

20-year-old Cuban OF, who MLB Pipeline recently named it's #1 international prospect. http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2015?list=int

Here's their write-up:

"Eddy Julio Martinez | Rank: 1 Hometown: Cuba, Las Tunas
Position: OF Age: 20 DOB: 1/18/1995
Bats: R Throws: R Height: 6'2" Weight: 195 lb.
VIDEO
Scouting grades: Hit: 60 | Power: 60 | Run: 70 | Arm: 60 | Field: 60
Think a young Andruw Jones. That's how some scouts have described the 20-year-old center fielder from Cuba. Evaluators like his body -- described as solid and compact -- and his athleticism. But there's a lot more to like.

In the batter's box, Martinez has a quick and compact power stroke. He's shown the ability to hit home runs to all fields and work the counts. He's speedy out of the box and shows base-stealing potential. Described as "hard-nosed," Martinez is aggressive and not afraid to take an extra-base.

Martinez has shown good instincts on defense and the ability to cover the gaps in the outfield. Those skills combined with a playable and accurate arm make scouts believe he will stay in center field and could be in the big leagues in after a couple of seasons in the Minor Leagues. Scouts also like that Martinez has experience playing for Cuba's junior national teams in Mexico and Venezuela and that he spent two seasons with Las Tunas in Cuba's Serie Nacional, the island's top league.

Martinez, who was declared a free agent by Major League Baseball in May, is eligible to sign. However, it is unclear if he will sign during the current international signing period or wait until the next period that begins on July 2. He is currently training in the Dominican Republic.

The Cubs, Yankees, Angels, Blue Jays, Nationals, Rockies, Tigers, Dodgers, Giants and White Sox are among the teams that have expressed serious interest in Martinez."

Chris Crawford (BP) today in his chat said the following:

"Eric (NY): Who not in this draft is the next big thing? Vlad Guerrero Jr? Someone else?

Christopher Crawford: Eddy Julio Martinez. The kid is a special, special, special talent. Note that I usually only use two specials for the really special ones. He has a chance to be...well...special."

"Festivus313 (Phoenix): Where would Eddy Julio Martinez, Yadier Alcarez, Norge Ruiz and Lucius Fix rank for you in this draft if eligible?

Christopher Crawford: Martinez would be at 1, Fox would be in the top 10, I don't have enough on the other two to give a concrete answer. Sorry."

"Silverback38 (VA): Is Lourdes Gourriel the best international hitting prospect or can you think of someone better?

Christopher Crawford: Martinez to me has more upside offensively, but Gourriel is also awful good."

"Mike (Cali): Is Eddy Julio Martinez the next Puig?

Christopher Crawford: Maybe, the centerfield version though. I've heard Andruw Jones comps, and those make a lot of sense."

"Craig (New Jersey): Eddy Julio Martinez or Yoan Moncada

Christopher Crawford: Moncada, but just barely."

Lots of love from both sources, so I'm trying to figure out how potentially valuable he might end up being.

Ben Badler at BA just today posted an update on Cuban players which includes a segment on Martinez. He's not nearly so optimistic about him as a prospect as Crawford and Sanchez are, altho he says he's a solid prospect. Here's the link to this piece, altho it's subscriber-only:

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http://www.baseballamerica.com/international/updates-top-cuban-players-available/

**Onions** · 06-09-2015, 01:49 PM

Originally posted by rhd View Post

Ben Badler at BA just today posted an update on Cuban players which includes a segment on Martinez. He's not nearly so optimistic about him as a prospect as Crawford and Sanchez are, altho he says he's a solid prospect. Here's the link to this piece, altho it's subscriber-only:
http://www.baseballamerica.com/inter...ers-available/

Out of curiosity, where did Badler think Martinez would have gone if available in this year's draft?

**rhd** · 06-09-2015, 02:43 PM

Originally posted by Onions View Post

Out of curiosity, where did Badler think Martinez would have gone if available in this year's draft?

He specifically said that he didnt want to do this w/o having seen him personally. He did say that he would take all of the first 8 Cuban players he listed in this article above Martinez, His list seems to be in general order of rank and the player immediately above him was Yusnier Diaz who he said would be in the #137 range of their Top 500 Draft prospects. He also said Martinez has never shown much power, has slightly above avg speed, a good but not great arm and that scouts are mixed on whether he'll stick in CF. He also says he's only 5'10", not 6'2" as listed at MLB.com.

**onejayhawk** · 06-13-2015, 11:53 PM

By league and position. Let me know if any of the players are in the wrong place.

AL

96 Matt Olson 1B

7 Yoan(Johan) Moncada 2B
92 Micah Johnson 2B
143 Tony Kemp 2B

4 Joey Gallo 3B
5 Miguel-Angel Sano 3B
35 Rafael Devers 3B
108 Giovanny Urshela 3B
124 D.J. Peterson 3B
128 Renato Nunez 3B

84 Blake Swihart C

2 Byron Buxton OF
14 Rusney Castillo OF
21 Manuel Margot OF
25 Alex Jackson OF
26 Dalton Pompey OF
28 Nomar Mazara OF
33 Bradley Zimmer OF
44 Delino DeShields OF
50 Clint Frazier OF
73 Aaron Judge OF
80 Brett Phillips OF
82 Nick Williams OF
107 Ryan Rua OF
109 Lewis Brinson OF
126 Teoscar Hernandez OF
139 Eddie Rosario OF

129 Carson Smith RP

6 Carlos Rodon SP
12 Eduardo Rodriguez SP
15 Daniel Norris SP
36 Lance McCullers SP
38 Luis Severino SP
41 Andrew Heaney SP
42 Jose(J.O.) Berrios SP
45 Dylan Bundy SP
47 Henry Owens SP
62 Jeff Hoffman SP
65 Mark Appel SP
66 Hunter Harvey SP
67 Sean Manaea SP
68 Alex (Chi chi) Gonzalez SP
85 Kyle Zimmer SP
89 Alex Meyer SP
90 Kohl Stewart SP
102 Vincent Velasquez SP
103 Jake(Aaron) Thompson SP
112 Brandon Finnegan SP
117 Michael Feliz SP
118 Sean Newcomb SP
122 Francellis Montas SP
130 Blake Snell SP
131 Brent Honeywell SP
132 Edwin Diaz SP
133 Luis Ortiz SP
134 Spencer Adams SP
140 Brian Johnson SP
142 Taylor Guerrieri SP
144 Justus Sheffield SP

1 Carlos Correa SS
11 Francisco Lindor SS
22 Franklin Barreto SS
48 Jorge Mateo SS
51 Daniel Robertson SS
57 Tim Anderson SS
58 Nick Gordon SS
77 Ketel Marte SS
87 Gleyber Torres SS
94 Raul(Adalberto) Mondesi SS
110 Willy Adames SS
123 Andrew Velazquez SS

NL

60 Josh Bell 1B

8 Hector Olivera 2B
29 Dilson Herrera 2B
31 Alexander Guerrero 2B
97 Forrest Wall 2B
74 Ryan McMahon 3B
137 Brandon Drury 3B

23 Kyle Schwarber C

17 Jose Peraza OF
49 Austin Meadows OF
52 Brandon Nimmo OF
54 Michael Conforto OF
55 Jesse Winker OF
56 Raimel Tapia OF
59 Stephen Piscotty OF
61 Hunter Renfroe OF
75 Billy McKinney OF
76 Roman Quinn OF
81 David Dahl OF
93 Aristides Aquino OF
95 Tyrone Taylor OF
98 Albert Almora OF
106 Preston Tucker OF
113 Rymer Liriano OF
114 Mallex Smith OF
125 Gabby Guerrero OF
127 Monte Harrison OF
136 Phillip Ervin OF

9 Julio Urias SP
10 Lucas Giolito SP
13 Noah Syndergaard SP
18 Tyler Glasnow SP
27 Archie Bradley SP
37 Michael Lorenzen SP
39 Steve Matz SP
40 Aaron Nola SP
43 Alex Reyes SP
46 Robert Stephenson SP
63 Jameson Taillon SP
64 Braden Shipley SP
69 Matt Wisler SP
70 Tyler Kolek SP
72 Reynaldo Lopez SP
86 Jonathan Gray SP
88 Marco Gonzales SP
91 Aaron Blair SP
100 A.J. Cole SP
101 Joe Ross SP
104 Grant Holmes SP
111 Raisel Iglesias SP
116 Jose DeLeon SP
119 Touki Toussaint SP
121 Marcos Molina SP
135 Tyler Beede SP
141 Kyle Crick SP

3 Corey Seager SS
16 J.P.(John Paul) Crawford SS
30 Jung-Ho Kang SS
34 Trea Turner SS
53 Orlando Arcia SS
78 Wilmer Difo SS
79 Ozhaino Albies SS
99 Alen Hanson SS
115 Trevor Story SS
138 Amed Rosario SS

Other

105 Andy Ibanez 2B

71 Alfredo Despaigne OF
83 Andrew Benintendi OF
147 Dazmon Cameron OF
148 Kyle Tucker OF

32 Shohei Otani SP
120 Yadier Alvares SP
145 Dillon Tate SP
146 Carson Fulmer SP
149 Tyler Jay SP
150 Kenta Maeda SP

19 Dansby Swanson SS
20 Alex Bregman SS
24 Brendan Rodgers SS

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