Ender's Game

[joncarlos]

I've never read the book, but I'm intrigued. I'll probably pick it up for the holidays. The movie is coming out next week. Any RJ fans?

I thought this article by Rany was very good: http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/...rsonal-history

[bryanbutler]

i loved the book when i read it, but that was probably 20 years ago or so. i don't know if it would stand the test of time; i intend to re-read it before i go see the film.

[mjl]

It is excellent. One of the best science fiction books ever. The sequels... not so much. Locke and Demosthenes (Ender's brother and sister) are a bit too preachy and the books where they get more visibility aren't as enjoyable.

[johnnya24]

Enders Game has pretty decent reviews. Flipping a coin between this and Philomena tonight. Because it may not get an extended cinema run, I think I'll probably see Philomena first.

[Kevin Seitzer]

It is excellent. One of the best science fiction books ever. The sequels... not so much. Locke and Demosthenes (Ender's brother and sister) are a bit too preachy and the books where they get more visibility aren't as enjoyable.

I agree.

[onejayhawk]

Card himself is pretty preachy. He's a Mormon who is also a Democrat.

Enders Game began as a concept for a special battle school. Card says he first started thinking about it in grade school, which makes sense, since that is the age pf the hero.

J

[DMT]

Card himself is pretty preachy. He's a Mormon who is also a Democrat.

Enders Game began as a concept for a special battle school. Card says he first started thinking about it in grade school, which makes sense, since that is the age pf the hero.

J

After reading that article JC linked, I find it shocking he calls himself a Democrat.

[onejayhawk]

After reading that article JC linked, I find it shocking he calls himself a Democrat.

I gather the same would be true of many New England Republicans. It may be a matter of comparison with those around him.

J

[Bob Kohm]

The movie is being boycotted by the LGBTQ community as Orson Scott Card is a sitting board member of the hideous National Organization for Marriage, the group of extremist bigots who equate marriage equality to incest, polygamy, etc. Every dime spent on tickets to this movie puts moneyin the coffers of these haters. It's a must miss.

[Bob Kohm]

Actually, I just read a piece on this and Card gets no compensation for box office sales whatsoever. He's already been paid. Missing it on a symbolic basis is about all one can do at this point.

Nope, he gets back end participation based on the film's net. Money spent to see the film is money spent to support bigotry. The distributor has been putting out false info like that since the opposition materialized last year.

[chancellor]

The movie is being boycotted by the LGBTQ community as Orson Scott Card is a sitting board member of the hideous National Organization for Marriage, the group of extremist bigots who equate marriage equality to incest, polygamy, etc. Every dime spent on tickets to this movie puts moneyin the coffers of these haters. It's a must miss.

While incest is a hideous crime that deserves up to the death penalty, I'm shocked the LGBTO community would oppose polygamy. Who are they to say what consenting adults can and can not do in the bedroom?

I think I'll watch it twice just to protest the hypocrisy. I'd go three times, but then the extra dimes I spend might go to Democratic candidates.

[OaklandA's]

A very good article on the Ender's Game controversy by Rany Jazayerli over at Grantland.

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9909314/ender-game-controversial-author-very-personal-history

[johnnya24]

Pretty good movie considering the amount of kids in the cast. IMO it was a better executed adaptation than The Hunger Games.

[semi-rant]

I'll have to read the book, especially in the light of the controversy that has accompanied the movie. I have seen the word "tolerance" thrown around quite liberally as if that is a positive ... "the book empathizes tolerance", "the author should be more tolerant with his views".

Tolerance is a negative. It's in the meaning - you are tolerating something you deep down hate / despise.

Tolerance should not be a goal, and I hear it used as a goal / ideal far too often. "Society should not learn to be more tolerant" ... no society should learn to overcome discrimination, not politely conceal it.

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[Fresno Bob]

Ender's Shadow is Ender's Game told from Bean's point of view, I found it much more interesting than Ender's Game, which I read when it first came out and had figured out half way through.....